The problem with Harleys is....

[Kiwi]

Hey, all the Harley bashing that goes on here, I was wondering are they really that bad??

I have owned my Streetbob for two years and 20k kms now and the only time she let me down was when a battery terminal lead came loose.

Other than that, totally reliable, very cheap to self service, and feel good factor second to none.

So speaking from experience HD good. or not so...

[agrid]

The only time a girl has said "Nice bike" to me was when I was riding my brother's Harley.

[shan]

PSB was predominatly full of spelling nartzies that rode sports bikes by day and surfed the webs by knight.
In the web worriers battelcry is a sorrid song of uncle dads tractor that he and betty lou concived my mum ,
whom I latter married and had three little sprockets of our own.

esencialy tractors are for fucking arround on
Sports bikes are for rideing in an awsome fassion
many people on tractors like to play dressups also, its an image thing.
Sports bikes would rather not be seen when being enjoyed (exept on a track)

Both have two wheels
But the philosify is as far apart as my spelling is to english

[El Skitzo]

Biggest problem I find with Harley's is the elitist knowall brand name-centric douchebag owners. Obviously not all HD owners are like that, but so so many of them are. I guess they feel so defensive about paying $25-35K on buying a bike that is yesterday's technology and can be out performed in every way by a metric cruiser worth 1/4 the price, especially given most HD owners I've met know so little about bikes. Ask them what sort of motor they have in their bike and they have no idea...

[D'Artagnan]

^^ +1. All about the image. You look like a 'wannabe' if you do the leather chaps and fake patches thing and if you don't, you're not a real HD rider. The 1%ers have all the fun...

[Arwon]

El Skitzo pretty much hit it on the head.

They are substandard compared to any design breif after 1980 and anything that weighs that much should have 4 wheels and a winch.
Motor performance can be substantial if you use all after market parts, and suspension, well do they have any.

Major improvements listed in the year 2000, twin piston front caliper, and twin cams, still mounted in the crankcase but twin cams.

Common knowledge for Harley owners is that stuff falls off them. If you make it home, it didn't need it in the first place.

Last but not least, under the big USA stamp, most engine components are now made in Asia. ( this is actually a positive thing)

other than these reasons they ARE the best thing since sliced bread.

[MADOGA]

Im on to my second Harley (wanted a bigger one) never had a problem with either one and love every minute of every ride even in the rain.

The worst thing about Harleys is the misconceptions and misinformation of those who have never owned or ridden one.

[Goofy]

Biggest problem I find with Harley's is the elitist knowall brand name-centric douchebag owners. Obviously not all HD owners are like that, but so so many of them are. I guess they feel so defensive about paying $25-35K on buying a bike that is yesterday's technology and can be out performed in every way by a metric cruiser worth 1/4 the price, especially given most HD owners I've met know so little about bikes. Ask them what sort of motor they have in their bike and they have no idea...

This isn't a Harley-Centric thing though, there are fanboys for most brands.

[Barfridge]

For me it comes down to one basic thing: style over substance.

Some people are cool with that, and love the look/sound/feel of them.
I prefer my bikes more functional, so they don't appeal to me.

(I think that's officially the most neutral assessment of Harley I've ever made).

[chew]

I have ridden three, one of them lasted long enough for a decent ride without expiring. The other two were both older, 1 x Shovel head, 1 x Knuckle head so I'll excuse them. Apparently I changed gears too fast for one?

The third was a late model thing and while it was a bike and as such was fun, I did find the handling and power not up to what I was expecting after hearing the gushing over the years from other owners. It was alright on the dirt however. The bloke who owned it was also a dealer and told me he made more money from accessories and servicing (a lot of the owners in the area were not into home maintenance) than he did on selling the bikes.

In saying all this I have ridden with a couple of harley riders who can ride the bloody things rather quickly and would scare the shit out of some sport bike riders out there.

[agrid]

If someone rolled up to a PSB meet on an old Ducati, Velocette or whatever, people would say how wonderful it was, but it would be even worse to ride than a modern Harley. Many people choose style over function, some have one of each.

[Maxo]

Like goofy said,

The worst thing about Harleys is the misconceptions and misinformation of those who have never owned or ridden one.

^
For me the fanboy attitude ruins it.
The bashing only exists where fanboys are there to be over protective about pisstaking.

Plus I'll probably never own a harley because i'm not a 1%'er or a born again willing to deck himself out in tassles and silly harley brand only protection.

[MADOGA]

Like goofy said,


Plus I'll probably never own a harley because i'm not a 1%'er or a born again willing to deck himself out in tassles and silly harley brand only protection.

I dont fit into any of those categorys, dont stop me riding one.

[Barfridge]

The problem with Harleys is....that people think this thread needs to exist.

What's there to prove? If you like them, ride them.
Those of us who have ridden one (or many) and are not too impressed will go on our merry way
Are you expecting to change peoples' opinions?

[Rat750]

I have ridden plenty. And intend on owning one of my own one day. I'll never give up my sports bikes because I love them too much but there's a time where you just want to put the mrs on the back and cruise to a destination with the rumble of a harley in your ears. In short I like anything with 2 wheels (within reason )

[Maxo]

The problem with Harleys is....that people think this thread needs to exist.

What's there to prove? If you like them, ride them.
Those of us who have ridden one (or many) and are not too impressed will go on our merry way
Are you expecting to change peoples' opinions?

I guess if you're new to bikes and you're not sure if they've copped flak for being unreliable pieces of crap, or whether its just people hating for the sake of it.

They're not bad. They just make you silly.

[devolved]

I only have one question - and it doesn't apply to all Harleys, but many a time I have thought this as one has passed me/been passed by me etc -
"Why the fuck does that thing have to be so fucking loud. Seriously, for fucks sake. Its louder than a fucking jet plane."

[MADOGA]

The problem with Harleys is....that people think this thread needs to exist.

There is no such thing as to many threads on Harleys, all publicity is good.

[stevo 1963]

Personally i love my sports bikes but after sitting on a few and even another members boulavard i can actually see the appeal.
Amazingly comfy to sit on and just a joy on long rides.
Still cant see myself buying 1 but who knows whats down the track
As for reliabilty ive heard many say there unreliable...but
I think youll find (just like jap bikes)
There are good and bad models.

[Kiwi]

The problem with Harleys is....that people think this thread needs to exist.

Are you expecting to change peoples' opinions?

No thread needs to exist, it's the internet.

The last thing I want to do is change peoples opinions, it's really more about getting Harley owners experiences because there are a few here.

Love them or hate them they are a unique ride.