Aftermarket Oil Filters to suit

[HK31A]

does anyone know any aftermarket oil filters to suit folling bikes as OEM are hell expensive when most come from this factories

aftermarket filters like ryco,wix,mann,fleetgaurd

we have a few bikes to service so we would like to keep costs to a reality

gsxr 750f
gsxr 1100 88 model
907ie
klr250
fj1200

your input would be fantastic and might beable to compile a list

cheers all

[R160]

contact ryco, tell them the approx dimensions and thread size, they'll have one to suit.

[Falcore]

Scotts do a reusable one you clean

Worked a treat for 70k plus on the zx12 (next to no compression loss since new etc)

Though the initial outlay isn't cheap........

[irnieracing]

Technical Service Bulletin: Correlation between particle size and engine wear.

"SAE Testing In the 1988 Correlating Lube Oil Filtration Efficiencies With Engine Wear technical paper published by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), the relationship between filtration levels and abrasive engine wear was established. Testing determined that wear was reduced by as much as 70 percent by switching from a 40μ filter to a 15μ filter. The SAE conducted tests on a heavy-duty diesel engine and an automotive gasoline engine, and both provided consistent results."

The SAE paper summarizes the test results with the following conclusions:
“Abrasive engine wear can be substantially reduced with an increase in filter single pass efficiency. Compared to a 40μ filter, engine wear was reduced by 50% with 30μ filtration. Likewise, wear was reduced by 70% with 15μ filtration. “Controlling the abrasive contaminants in the range of 2 to 22μ in the lube oil is necessary for controlling engine wear. “The micron rating of a filter, as established in a single pass efficiency type test, does an excellent job in indicating the filter’s ability to remove abrasive particles in the engine lube oil system.”

[irnieracing]

AMSOIL Motorcycle filters are 'Absolute Efficient (98.7 % per pass)' at 15 microns. OEM filters are typically "absolute efficent" at 45 microns, or 35-40% efficient at 15 microns. The reusable steel mesh filters from Scott etc, don't have a good filtering efficiency. Similar to K&N air filters, they let lots of large particles through the filter, yet maintain a high flow rate. I recommend everyone stay away from metal filters.

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Nanofiber Basics
Because the nanofibers in AMSOIL Ea Motorcycle Oil Filter media are so small, there are more pores per square inch, allowing for higher dirt-holding capacity and lower pressure drop compared to traditional filter medias. Thinner media fibers produce more uniform pore size distribution, improving the filter’s overall ability to capture and retain particles.

Oil Filtration Basics
Clean oil is vital to engine performance and durability. Oil must lubricate, cool and clean the engine as it circulates. In order to remain effective, it must be filtered as it cycles. The filter is connected to the engine sump, which contains the oil pump. Full-flow filters pass all the oil output from the pump through the filter.

The function of the oil filter is to remove the contaminants introduced into the lubricating oil and prevent them from reaching sensitive engine parts without restricting normal oil flow to the various points requiring lubrication. Internal sources of contamination include wear products from the rubbing surfaces of the engine, blow-by gases leaking past the rings of the pistons and degradation of the oil itself. A filter must perform well in the areas of efficiency, capacity, flow and life.

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Hope this helps.

Marcel Irnie
irnieracing.com

[Para045]

does anyone know any aftermarket oil filters to suit folling bikes as OEM are hell expensive when most come from this factories

aftermarket filters like Ryco,Wix,Mann,Fleetguard

we have a few bikes to service so we would like to keep costs to a reality

GSXR 750F
GSXR 1100 88 model
907ie
KLR250
FJ1200

your input would be fantastic and might be able to compile a list

cheers all

Oil Filter Cross Reference It's from the US so not all the filters are available here BUT you can at least try and cross reference a US filter with a Oz spec one

[MattstaZX10r]

Technical Service Bulletin: Correlation between particle size and engine wear.

"SAE Testing In the 1988 Correlating Lube Oil Filtration Efficiencies With Engine Wear technical paper published by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), the relationship between filtration levels and abrasive engine wear was established. Testing determined that wear was reduced by as much as 70 percent by switching from a 40μ filter to a 15μ filter. The SAE conducted tests on a heavy-duty diesel engine and an automotive gasoline engine, and both provided consistent results."

The SAE paper summarizes the test results with the following conclusions:
“Abrasive engine wear can be substantially reduced with an increase in filter single pass efficiency. Compared to a 40μ filter, engine wear was reduced by 50% with 30μ filtration. Likewise, wear was reduced by 70% with 15μ filtration. “Controlling the abrasive contaminants in the range of 2 to 22μ in the lube oil is necessary for controlling engine wear. “The micron rating of a filter, as established in a single pass efficiency type test, does an excellent job in indicating the filter’s ability to remove abrasive particles in the engine lube oil system.”

OK - so do you /can you distribute to Australia ? If you can/ will , what sort of pricing are we looking at for say the avg 600-1000cc Jap/euro ?

Bulk buy option??
Ebay seller??

(as you can tell you got my attention )

[smeghead]

These guys distribute Amsoil stuff in Aus: Enginecare Systems Australasia

[jules_1972]

Scotts do a reusable one you clean

Worked a treat for 70k plus on the zx12 (next to no compression loss since new etc)

Though the initial outlay isn't cheap........

Good Value for $$$ IMHO..

Especially if keeping the bike for long time.

[R160]

i would'nt use re-usable, a mate fitted one to his Benelli, the mesh inside colapsed and he had accelerated wear in the engine, (he gets his oil analysed regularly). I believe Scotts closed down? well and least the no longer answer his emails once he pointed out what it did to his engine!...

You can always do what he did when replacing OEM filters, see below (note GUD make ryco filters)

" had a spare Benelli filter that I sent to GUD Automotive in Melbourne, Australia, for testing. Here's their report:."As per our telephone conversation, we have reviewed the Benelli filter you sent to us and have the following comments on it:

Dimensionally the filter is most similar to the Ryco Z436 filter. The only potentially significant difference is the seal to thread start dimension. On the Benelli filter this measures 9mm, whereas Z436 is 6mm. This should not cause a problem if the threaded spigot on the mounting pad is threaded far enough down. If not the thread will bottom out and you will not get good seal compression. You can test this by checking when the filter seal first contacts the mounting pad and then ensuring you get 2/3 of a turn beyond this. (this should be done by hand - if you need a tool to tighten to this level you may have bottomed out the thread). Note, some mounting pads have a nut or other features which require such a high seal to thread start which may also affect this.
I also noted that the Benelli seal is white in colour, this suggests the seal may be made from a silicone rubber (It is very difficult to get good physical properties with nitrile rubber without using Carbon Black). As silicone rubbers have a much wider temperature range, this may have been done to account for very high engine temperatures, or because the filter is sent all over the world (ie Canada where start up temperatures of -40ºC can be expected, to Saudi Arabia where ambient temperatures in excess of 50ºC are common). If it is the latter, you should have no problem in Australia with the nitrile seal in the Z436. If it is high engine temperatures, then there is the possibility of the seal taking a compression set, and after a period, you could get oil leaks from the seal area. In extreme cases the seal can vulcanise onto the mounting pad and be difficult to remove. I don't think this is likely, but if you try the filter keep an eye out for the first change or so.
We also have done a restriction test and the Z436 shows slightly lower restriction than the Benelli filter (see below). Therefore the filter is ok in this respect.
I cannot comment on the life or efficiency of the filter, but I can tell you that the Z436 media uses a high quality full flow oil filter media with an absolute micron rating of approximately 30microns. This is where 99% of particles are expected to be filtered out. The filter is most commonly used on late model (90s onwards) Mazda engines and late model Subaru engines, where change intervals of 12,500km are specified.
I hope this helps you, and if you have any questions please feel free to contact me and I will answer them as best as possible.
Regards
David Brooks
Engineering Manager
GUD Automotive
245 Sunshine Rd
Tottenham Vic. 3012
FlowRestriction (kPa)RateRycoBenellil/mZ436R1801071010000004.5669.18913.6111518.2142022. 7202527.3233031.8303636.4354141424745.54655test using SAE J1260"
Of course, this is great info, if you happen to be parked in Oz. I suspect that Ryco, an Australia manufacturer, doesn't get out much, and the Z436 may be difficult to find elsewhere in the world. But you get the idea. The flow restriction should be less than or equal to the Genuine part."


I just looked on AMSoil US web site and the list a replacement for the Benelli / Z436 (Mazda 323 oil filter,) filter, I'll have to buy a couple and try the 20/50W oil next oil change
:-)

[R160]

I'm interested to see that AMSoil filter down to 15 microns, so the filter should have more surface area over the ryco to have no restriction happening, the ryco have worked perfect on the RS for the last 5 yrs. either way, the ryco / AMSoil filter are cheaper than the OEM one.

I've noticed for filters its really just a matter of matching threads and ensuring the filter isnt so long that it will touch up against the headers on bikes like mine

[jules_1972]

Pretty sure these are easily available -

HI Flo Filters

[Sean'o]

Try K&N filters p/n for an 88 gsxr1100 88model is kn138
heres a link to their search function for your other bikes.K&N Products by Vehicle Search - Year, Make, Model, Engine Search

[HK31A]

k n filters and hi flow are still expensive for what they are thats why i am chasing more wix or fleetgaurd or mann as they are priced more inexpensive and at the end of the day were just riding around not racing

cheers for all the input as it is invaluble

[Roady]

found this link for ducati....about 10 bucks cheaper than the bike shops ...even after postage..

eBay Australia Store ? PA MotorCycles: Search results for.

[Para045]

Pretty sure these are easily available -

HI Flo Filters

Yeah that's what D Ball used when he serviced my BB

[upg]

Pretty sure these are easily available -

HI Flo Filters

food for thought

Oil Filters - Ninja250Wiki

As most cartridge-type filters are more or less the same, any of the above filters will be of good quality. There is, however, one brand of filter which several club members DON'T recommend. That is HiFloFiltro. As reported, it takes longer for the oil pressure light to go out after starting than with other filters. One member reported that at 3000 miles it started shifting funny, and the oil light stayed on longer than normal. His second Hi-Flo did the same thing at a little over 3000 miles. Other filters can go many more miles without these symptoms showing up.

[Conrad]

I can buy genuine filters on ebay cheaper than i can get ryco at wholesale

[HK31A]

I can buy genuine filters on ebay cheaper than i can get ryco at wholesale

hi
thanks for that
you mind sharing your ebay link for the OEM filters cheaper than ryco please
cheers

[Conrad]

didn't save the seller, could find out who it was through paypal if you cant find anything yourself. i bought 3 genuine filters for $10 plus $5 postage, i sell ryco's for aorund $10ea