FE do they prevent your numberplate from being seen by speed cameras

[sproket88]

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[Barfridge]

yes/no, depending on the angle it's mounted at.

[sproket88]

Yeah say roadside portable cameras not fixed

[Maxo]

Yeah say roadside portable cameras not fixed

yes/no, depending on the angle it's mounted at.

[shmoo]

i think he means the angle the plate is mounted at, not the angle of the camera.

[Dave M109R]

Angle Vs Camera = win

[SMURF22]

i think he means the angle the plate is mounted at, not the angle of the camera.

All roadside traffic cameras are mounted at the same angle..Its regulatory! 20 degrees

[shmoo]

All roadside traffic cameras are mounted at the same angle..Its regulatory! 20 degrees

yeah. what's your point?

[killswitch54923]

Bend it up and no, just mount it flat, yes.

[Desmo]

Angle Vs Camera = win

That's just being a dick.

[andymac]

Saw a good one a green Ninja on the freeway a few times, where the plate sits between twin undertail pipes - perfectly visible from behind, but I'm betting perfectly obscured from a 20 degree angle.

Also - is that Suzuki plate legal?

[Desmo]

No it's not, and neither are the pipes I should imagine.

[rcradical]

That's a Suzi M109R.

Those pipes look pretty standard.

[Desmo]

I bet they still sound loud and horrible.

[Barfridge]

Also - is that Suzuki plate legal?

not mounted horizontally
not mounted as rearwards as practical
not lit
not visible from 45 degrees either side of the rear of vehicle (I think this is the ADR, but feel free to correct me).

In summary, it's cop bait.

[-Mark-]

Surely the distance from the camera to the rear of the vehicle also plays a part as well as the height of the lens from the ground.

I think that M109 plate would still be visible from 20 degrees depending on the distance. The further away from the lens the more is visible.

Those vertically mounted plates - I have seen then on quite a few cruisers now. Was considering for mine - but won't if they are illegal.

[Heretic]

Dave M109R as much as i really do admire your think outside the square solution there i think you'll eventually get done for a partially obstructed plate, also i cant see a light? that would be just a "giv me" for them and give them the excuse to pull you over mate, they don't need much these days

[-Mark-]

I just did a bit of googling and it seems the angles of mobile speed cameras are variable but usually about 45 degrees to the road.

[Dave M109R]

Light is mounted under the rear end for the invisible look... seems to have worked.

Desmo i like you....so honest

Plate is technically legal, have already been to the rta and asked.
Apparently W.A is the only state left that does not have the 45 degree rule for number plates, it must only be visible from the rear and must me mounted in an "upright" position.

Not being a smartarse (had enough shit from doing that) but i do carry a print out of the regulation and have shown it to two traffic officers and been let off with a "i did not know that".


ROAD TRAFFIC (LICENSING) REGULATIONS 1975 - REG 25
25 . Number plate to be fixed on vehicle
(1) A responsible person for, or a person in charge of, a vehicle shall rigidly fix and keep the identification tablet or number plates of the vehicle thereon so that —


(a) in the case of a motor cycle or a trailer or jinker as defined in the Road Traffic (Vehicle Standards) Regulations 2002 , the identification tablet or number plate is fixed and kept in a conspicuous place on the back of the vehicle, in an upright position and so that the characters thereon are clearly visible and legible, by day and by night;

For more information you can get it here ROAD TRAFFIC (LICENSING) REGULATIONS 1975 - REG 25

The technical part is that i define "upright" as like how we walk but i'm sure to get in the shit one with a Officer having a bad day.

[Barfridge]

If I was a traffic copper the phrase in the legislation I'd be zooming in on is 'conspicuous on the back of the vehicle', because it's not on the back, and from the left it isn't conspicuous at all.