Office of Road Safety - Penalties

[D34N0]

Found an interesting link which outlines current driving penalties if anyone is interested.

I did a search but couldnt find it already posted. Appologies if this is a repost. Was just having a discussion with one of the lads we went for a ride with today and he didn't believe me that >30 over was now $700. Thought others might like to see for themselves.

And hi to everyone I saw out on the roads today. Gt Northan hwy, Chittering, Toodyay rd, Gt Eastern Hwy, Mundairing and Canning Mills. Sore neck now from all the nodding

Cheers.

[Macca]

That is seriously harsh i think more than a few people's wallets will be hurting

[Nero Diablo]

Yes but it doesn't mention the public flogging or the ducking/trial by water. Pissy driving is ok though cause judges and footy players do it.

[Lolly]

I think they should increase the fines to $100,000 for 9klm over and speeding on a long weekend should be jail for life. That will stop all those wicked peeps.

[Hewie]

From here

Office of Road Safety - Motorcyclists

What We're Doing

Last year 31 motorcyclists were killed on West Australian roads - a 63 per cent increase on 2005.
Motorcyclists are particularly vulnerable road users because they do not have the level of protection a car offers if they crash.
Of the 1157 motorcycle riders and pillion passengers involved in crashes in WA in 2005, almost one third involved fatalities or hospitalisations
There are just as many older riders involved in serious crashes as younger motorcyclists.
Riding requires greater co-ordination, balance and concentration than driving. But some riders increase their vulnerability by taking more risks - particularly when it comes to travelling at higher speeds. In 2005, inappropriate or excessive speed was a factor in 35 per cent of motorcyclist fatalities.
It is also true that other road users don't always see motorcyclists, therefore it makes good sense for riders to turn their lights on during the day and to wear bright clothing.
The Road Safety Council is addressing road safety for motorcyclists through its safe system approach - safer road, safe vehicles, safe travel speeds and safe riders.
The Council's safer roads strategy includes improvements to road infrastructure to reduce the impact and severity of crashes.
Safe vehicles can also make a difference to motorcyclist safety - the Australian New Car Assessment Program includes pedestrian impact tests on new cars that give a valuable insight into how they may impact on a motorcycle in a collision.
Safe speeds are already having an impact. The cutting of speed limits from 60km/h to 50km/h has reduced the monthly crash rates of motorcyclists on local roads.
The Council runs regular campaigns on the dangers of speed, drink driving and fatigue to encourage safer rider behaviour. It is also looking into improving novice motorcyclist training.


Sooooo the other 65% was caused by FEs and loud pipes ?? I wonder what happened to the "majority of deaths are speed related"

[-Stevo-]

Its definately $700, I have the piece of paper right here to prove it

that will teach me for overtaking a truck at 139 instead of 'just a few k's over' as mr plod suggested I should have... mmm definately sounds safe to me...

its a bit silly, the money and demerits have not really taught me anything... I know I made the safe and correct move... only next time I'll be more careful to make sure constable care isnt there to pull me over and look out for my safety...

[Charger]

Hopefully this whole "hoon" beat up dies a natural death (unlike Grant Dorrington).

As an old boy on a car forum I frequent pointed out the other day, he lived through the exact same thing in the 70's with the supercar scare. Hopefully it's just a cycle but my gut feeling tell's me they are well on their way to making speeding as socially unacceptable as drink driving.

[Lolly]

Did you see the new Minister for Road Safety - Rob johnson on tv tonight? He is all about crushing cars (well the cheap ones at any rate). He wants to introduce the change asap - 3rd offence car crushed irrespective of who owns it. Expensive cars will be sold with proceeds to victims....

Alas, no mention of alternative venues for kids (or adults) to vent their need for speed in a safe and controlled and cheap environment.

[Top Gun]

Originally Posted by Lolly

Did you see the new Minister for Road Safety - Rob johnson on tv tonight? He is all about crushing cars (well the cheap ones at any rate). He wants to introduce the change asap - 3rd offence car crushed irrespective of who owns it. Expensive cars will be sold with proceeds to victims....

Alas, no mention of alternative venues for kids (or adults) to vent their need for speed in a safe and controlled and cheap environment.

That was already the option third offence wasnt it, whats stopping people buying $500 bomb get that crushed to keep there good car/bike

[Nero Diablo]

With a little refinment this is going to the local members (in the front of the white pages if you are ever wondering)



To the scum bag blood sucking leach that claim they represent us (local members Name inserted latter).

Re: Anti Hoon laws and the Police state that this Goverment seems hell bent on creating.

i watched with some astonishment as your new minister for police rattled on about sitffing anti hoon laws. I have a serious problem with this I was unaware there was an “hoon problem” untill the local politicians started pionting it out. Of course and Ambulance chasing local media got on board to make big headlines. In fact I’m still unaware there is a Hoon problem a couple of black lines left in a carpark at 2am does not consitute a menace on our roads no matter what spin you put on it and Police already had powers to deal with this. I have come to the conclusion that anti hoon laws are mearly a free kick for politicans that have run out of idea’s and have nothing to constructive to contribute to the running of the state. After a couple of weeks in govt if this is the best you can do it doesn’t bode well.

We now have the almost ludicrious situation where someone 20-30kms over the limit is up for $1000’s of dollar loss of licence car impounded but three time over the BAC is a $500 fine three month suspension (which is usually ignored). I’d much prefere to share the road with the speedster most likely they are predictable the drunk will be anything but.

If you are so hell bent on improving the road toll (unlikely) the dozy so and so in the camry that decided to do a right turn from the left hand lane in front of me needs a wake up call we missed buy 1.5 meters after i brought my car to a dead stop in the middle of the intersection. I have little doubt that the “hoon” laws will have any impact on this person other than giving them a warm fuzzy felling. Like most people in country WA the ability to drive is pretty much essential to earn a living yet in the intrests of road safety I’m finding I’m spending more and more time intently staring at the instrument pannel of my vehicle in order to aviod further taxation. The ORS seems to be sure its safe I can’t see how.

With a booming economy and infastructre groaning under the extra preasure put on roads hospitals the best a new govt can come up with is a cheap political kick i doubt any of the serious probalem will be addressed because you won’t be in power long enough to actually do anything about them.

Yours sincerly
Black Devil

[Para045]

Originally Posted by Top Gun

That was already the option third offence wasn't it, whats stopping people buying $500 bomb get that crushed to keep there good car/bike

Generally when you get nicked under the "hoon laws" or for anything else for that matter you are in/on the "offending vehicle" so that will be impounded straight away so no chance of that

If you are on a 3rd strike it just gives more incentive to run

[eckythump]

Originally Posted by Para045

Generally when you get nicked under the "hoon laws" or for anything else for that matter you are in/on the "offending vehicle" so that will be impounded straight away so no chance of that

If you are on a 3rd strike it just gives more incentive to run

Do the so called "strikes" get cleared after the 3rd? If so, that $500 car could potentially serve a worth while purpose

[Machast]

motorcycle on empty freeway at 3am 140kph+ = same penalty as 50 tonne truck double the limit thru an active school zone. wtf.

[dv8]

A mate of mine, got chased by the cops not long ago, I'm not saying what he did was the right thing to do. He said he was doing 30 - 40 over the limit on an open road, with no traffic to be seen, and he knew he was fucked if he stopped with the new laws, so he did the runner.

[Chyna]

Originally Posted by Hewie

It is also true that other road users don't always see motorcyclists, therefore it makes good sense for riders to turn their lights on during the day and to wear bright clothing.

I find it interesting that from the viewpoint of 'most road users don't see motorcyclists,' the solution is for the motorcyclists to improve their visibility, as opposed to teaching the majority of road users to look more carefully.

Originally Posted by Hewie

The Council runs regular campaigns on the dangers of speed, drink driving and fatigue to encourage safer rider behaviour. It is also looking into improving novice motorcyclist training.

It's been ages since I've seen any drink driving and/or fatigue campaigns. The last two years, at least, have been solely speed related campaigns. Also, I think that 'looking into' improving novice motorcyclist training is an interesting way of saying, 'we acknowledge extra training may be necessary, however we're not actually going to do anything about it.'

Complete load of crap, really. I'm tired of attempting to swallow the bullshit they're coming out with, and attempting to defend riding a motorcycle to the loads of people who don't ride, and who've been brainwashed into thinking that motorcyclist = psychotic hoon.

[Machast]

Originally Posted by Chyna

I find it interesting that from the viewpoint of 'most road users don't see motorcyclists,' the solution is for the motorcyclists to improve their visibility,

"good sense" isn't the same thing as a solution. Teaching cagers to open their eyes is PART OF the solution... having bikers increase their visibility is also PART OF the solution.

[Gryphen]

The crushing the cars after the 3rd strike report had an interesting line... irrespective of who owns the car the car would be crushed... ... but your honour my son took the car without permission... ...Sorry crush it... ... but your honour the the car was stolen from my driveway... ... nup... crush it...

Pollies make these broad fucking statements, and obviously have no intelectual power to back them up, and I do love the way that they are all purer than the driven snow..

They are all fucking wankers.

[Slipin]

the way i see it us as bikers have to be double cautious when it comes to riding on the roads due to the amount of fuck heads out there and at the end of the day if we speed and god forbid come off where going to hurt no one else but ourselves (with maybe a few exceptions )compared to a 1600kg car .. so i think thats a penalty in it's self !! so we are already riding penalized and now with these blody fines wich realisticly a new R1 can cause u to lose your licence and not even be outa first gear i dont think people should speed in the cbd but if your in a situation where theres no side roads or in the country in the middle of no where i dont see the problem .. having said that by having a littlle fun i mean 160-180kmph the 300kmph maybe pushing the envolope a bit any way thats my little rant

[likefry]

Hmm it just seems to me that people on the verge of losing their license just won't stop or will ride with no plates. If you got a decent bike these days and are a competent rider you should be able to lose the cops no probs. It takes at least 15 mins to get polair into air so if you lose the cops quickly then theres not much to stop you.

[D34N0]

Gryphen - The crushing the cars after the 3rd strike report had an interesting line... irrespective of who owns the car the car would be crushed

If this was the case it would be funny if someone was to steal one of the law makers flash cars and go hooning. I can just hear the snap crackle pop of that mercedes now....