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25-07-2008, 10:19 AM
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^^ Well said. Pretty much hit the nail on the head there.
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25-07-2008, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Perth
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I'm not paying shit. I dont' pay to use any other forum be it a perth forum and an international forum. PSB wasn't a business when I joined in '05 and I didnt' pay then. Now it has advertising space so why should I pay now.
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You don't pay to use, you pay to support. Big difference. I support a number of forums that provide real value. (ie. more than just chat...)
Describing non payers as 'free loaders' MAY be going a bit far ... BUT thats not my call  (If it was my call, id give them no tag, but block them from specific areas eg For Sale ha ha)
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25-07-2008, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
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Dude he has a right to express his opinion, it's not a closed shop.
Plus how many supporters complained when all tags were removed, and the supporter system was canned (ie LOTS)
What happens... happens...
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25-07-2008, 10:27 AM
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Honda CBR1000RR
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Vic Park
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I dont see what the problem is, use it, pay for it.. its that simple, isnt it?
Like $29 is going to break the bank anyway... serious  |
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25-07-2008, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toodyay
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Even if they are making money, and keep in mind that even if they turn a tiny profit this year there are 7 years worth of losses he would have to make up for aswell, who cares? If I knew that PSB was turning a profit and I had a spare 30 bucks I would still donate it not just to compensate their time and effort, but just because I love PSB. I've paid 30 bucks for a music album which gets played for like a month and then thrown onto the stack, I knew they were turning a profit but I still supported the band because they gave me satisfaction, and I daresay a years worth of PSB gives me alot more satisfaction than listening to some music before it gets boring.
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25-07-2008, 10:31 AM
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Fireblade
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hammeredsley
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While I'm happy to pay, I do agree with T_B R1.
And if memory serves, when the Supporter program was brought in (or a bit after, not sure), it was said that the money from subscriptions would not go towards running costs, but into other unnamed benefits for PSBers. I even remember remember Deej saying he was happy to cover the costs (note - not trying to sound like I expect him to cover costs, I am grateful  ).
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25-07-2008, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Perth
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Nicely worded Jedi.
The money goes wherever the money goes and we benefit from it (good software, new features, pro merch, whatever). Psb grows and evolves over time.
Im happy to pay for this little tag even in the past if it ment I had to skip having lunch with mates a few times a year.
No one makes you pay for it.
For those who do pay for it, they get a little something for their money.
Last edited by Darkbyte; 25-07-2008 at 10:40 AM.
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25-07-2008, 10:33 AM
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One thumps the other screams
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: A private road
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Originally Posted by Gryphen
Dude he has a right to express his opinion, it's not a closed shop.
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There is a fine line between expressing an opinion and being a blatant whiney little bitch.
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25-07-2008, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
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There is a fine line between expressing an opinion and being a blatant whiney little bitch.
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25-07-2008, 10:36 AM
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ShedFullaDeadZeds
Join Date: May 2006
Location: out of left field
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I do not object to anyone who does not pay for PSB.
I do not think they should miss out on anything.
I think the supporter system should remain as something for people who wish to donate to the costs of running the forum.
No more, no less.
I will not disrespect anyone for their financial contribution to this forum, only the content of what they post.
It is not the money that is important (to me), it is the quality of posts.
You may have paid top dollars to the forum, but if you post piles and piles of shit then you are more of a hassle to the forum and it's members and should be told to fuck off just as rapidly as a n00b or any other forum member.
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25-07-2008, 10:36 AM
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R1
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fremantle
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So it seems like those who dont pay will be looked differntly from those who do pay????And everyone will be forced to pay not by the people who run this but through peergroup pressure???
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25-07-2008, 10:37 AM
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It's invisible...
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: PSB Cafe
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It's being looked at people, don't stress.
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25-07-2008, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mexico
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Originally Posted by T_B R1
I'm not paying shit. I dont' pay to use any other forum be it a perth forum and an international forum. PSB wasn't a business when I joined in '05 and I didnt' pay then. Now it has advertising space so why should I pay now.
This thread was started to get ideas, I put mine forward.
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I don't think anyone is trying to force you to pay, this is the internet, and getting all butthurt about a simple tag really isn't going to affect anyone but yourself, and amuse no one but Aphex.
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25-07-2008, 10:39 AM
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No one is forced to pay anything to use this place. A request was put forward, an option was presented by a member and the majority accepted it.
I would estimate that PSB may have chewed up close to 50k over the 5 odd years of it being around. (Thanks Deej). Supporter fee's have returned a small percentage of that and the advertising has returned even less.
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25-07-2008, 10:39 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: PSB Cafe
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It's being looked at people, don't stress.
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25-07-2008, 10:40 AM
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One thumps the other screams
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: A private road
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Originally Posted by Rider
So it seems like those who dont pay will be looked differntly from those who do pay????And everyone will be forced to pay not by the people who run this but through peergroup pressure???
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Why would they be looked upon differently? Everyone has their reasons for either supporting or not. Everyone has a different situation. Some that would like to support are perhaps unable to etc... Peer pressue? We're not in highschool any more.
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Personally I'd go Yamaha.
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25-07-2008, 10:42 AM
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GSX-R1000
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Perth
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Originally Posted by Rider
So it seems like those who dont pay will be looked differntly from those who do pay????And everyone will be forced to pay not by the people who run this but through peergroup pressure???
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How is it different now? People know who paid and who didnt in the past.
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25-07-2008, 10:44 AM
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R1
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fremantle
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Originally Posted by Aphex
Why would they be looked upon differently? Everyone has their reasons for either supporting or not. Everyone has a different situation. Some that would like to support are perhaps unable to etc... Peer pressue? We're not in highschool any more.
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25-07-2008, 10:45 AM
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Jota | TZ350 | T160V | 'Storm
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Future
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Even the bandwith costs alone would be significant for a site with this much activity...
If you don't want to pay a subscription, fine, but why shit on the payment model?
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25-07-2008, 10:45 AM
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Fireblade
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hammeredsley
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Originally Posted by Aphex
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We're not in highschool any more.
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