Help! I think my clutch has Sh*t itself. Pics of plates on p5.

[Bunyack]

During a spirited ride last night, I think my clutch shat itself.

was at a set of lights, waiting for green, in first gear, clutch lever in, lights go green, clutch lever out, throttle on, It stalls.

Clutch lever in, start her up again, clutch lever out, throttle on, it stalls.
this happens a few more times and I manage to start without the cluth, just with throttle. park her up on the corner of a street somewhere up north (North Beach Rd). A quick sms and the rest of the ride finds me.

So.... the symptoms:

When the bike isnt running, (just the electrics on) I can change through 1st Neutral and 2nd easily.

when the bike is running, in Neutral, it slams into 1st with a lot of force. (Clutch lever in of course)

when the bike is running, in Neutral, and I pull the clutch lever in, the clutch basket makes a wirring sound, as if things are rattleing in there.


When the bike is in 1st, it wont change up into NEutral, and skips straight to 2nd, with a lot of force.

When the bike is in 1st, with the clutch lever in, the bike is pulling forward, as if the clutch is slightly engaging.

I was hoping it was a simple cable adjustment, but now im fearing it is something more sinister.

any suggestions???

yes it may be because I thrash the bike, I know its most likely the cause, you dont have to remind me. But I stay away from clutching it, most of them are power'd up.

[Captain Starfish]

so you've effectively lengthened the cable run at both ends? ie wound the adjusters out away from the levers?

If it's just an adjustment then this should mean that the clutch is permanently "pulled in", ie can click gears with engine running, let clutch out and nothing happens.

But for the bike to stall when you let the clutch out sounds a little more sinister...

When the bike is in 1st, it wont change up into second, and skips straight to 2nd, with a lot of force.

<-- fix this please, makes zero sense as written.

How did you end up getting home?

[semi]

uh oh
sounds pretty sinister to me too, maybe something warped bad in there. Was your bike running particularly hot bunyack? Did it do anything before taking off from the lights?

[Bunyack]

ooops fixed. i meant it skips neutral.


Yeah, when it first happened, it stalled a few times. I rode for a few km, trying to alert the rolling corner marker ahead of me but her kept taking off when he saw me so I stopped.


when I had stopped, it didnt stall anymore. just the lurching forward when the clutch was in and in 1st gear. and the missing neatral while the engine's running....

[Bunyack]

Originally Posted by Captain Starfish

If it's just an adjustment then this should mean that the clutch is permanently "pulled in", ie can click gears with engine running, let clutch out and nothing happens.

it feels as if the cable is too loose, causing the clutch to be slighly engaged, I tried to tighten it, but didnt get any results.

if it's only a few hundred $$ for some new clutch plates that would be ok.

so long as the gearbox aint fuXored

[Aphex]

Originally Posted by Bunyack

if it's only a few hundred $$ for some new clutch plates that would be ok.


so long as the gearbox aint fuXored

Gluck with that... full clutch pack is closer to $1k. Gearbox??? Get a 4th job

[semi]

should only be a couple of hundred. I'll do it/help you do it if you want, theyre not really hard to do

[semi]

hang on, im calling 5 star now

[Bunyack]

go Semi!!! go!!

[nath]

Shouldn't cost you more than ~$200 for friction and steel plates fom somewere local.

Else... Ebay.. ~US$100 for a HD

Edit: oh.. + replace the gasket... $30-40

[semi]

friction plates:$126
steels: $216
springs: $60

mate, drop your oil as soon as you can, and try not to ride the bike. If you've fucked the fibres then you should see it in the oil

[semi]

Originally Posted by nath

Shouldn't cost you more than ~$200 for friction and steel plates fom somewere local.

Else... Ebay.. ~US$100 for a HD

Edit: oh.. + replace the gasket... $30-40

yeh, plus oil and filter, plus probably some cheap oil for a flush

[nath]

Originally Posted by semi

friction plates:$126
steels: $216
springs: $60

lol...

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Filter is $16-20 local

[Halo_2]

noob wheelie's

on a rear stand in nuetral the rear wheel shouldnt spin at all

try adjusting it first 2mm slack at clutch lever before it engages before buying new plates, guessing it wasnt adjusted properly and your burnt your plates.

Originally Posted by semi

should only be a couple of hundred. I'll do it/help you do it if you want, theyre not really hard to do

i payed about that for the zzr to be fitted by stealership

[semi]

thats not much cheaper, its the steels that are the killer, which arent in that kit

[semi]

Originally Posted by Halo_2

noob wheelie's

on a rear stand in nuetral the rear wheel shouldnt spin at all

what?

[nath]

Originally Posted by semi

thats not much cheaper, its the steels that are the killer, which arent in that kit

There will be one that does... CBF looking..

[rgvlee]

Originally Posted by Halo_2

noob wheelie's
on a rear stand in nuetral the rear wheel shouldnt spin at all

This is not correct.

There is a thread covering this very well on the forum. The rear can and will spin to a degree in neutral.

...back on topic

edit: http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...uestion-37103/

[semi]

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This ones much better, comes with all the frictions, steels, boss ring and gasket. Much better price

[Bunyack]

awwwww, just did the oil and filter