Help! I think my clutch has Sh*t itself. Pics of plates on p5.

[semi]

Originally Posted by likefry

hey bunyack i'm right around the corner from you and have tools.

Let me know if ya want me to come round

dont think so, he's moved. In rivervale now

[g0zer]

Originally Posted by Bunyack

I hope you're being nice, not cruel.


oHhhh and I discovered, from the R1-Forum, that you dont need to drop the oil.

nope, ive never burnt a clutch out.. although my R1 has 50000km on it now and i am figuring to ask derek ball to give it a 50000km major look over which includes a clutch rebuild.. preventative maintenance + i figure the amount it costs to have someone do it compared to the amount i spend on tyres and fuel and all the other consumables.. clutch is a pretty minor expense.

[Bunyack]

^^^^ Referring to my quote, But I will drop the oil, just to make sure there's no nasties in the engine. will attempt to rip 'er open on the weekend.

[arwon]

You only need to replace the clutch if the plate pack is out of spec or the fibres are glazed. The inner and outer basket may have wear marks where the fibres or steels hit, but replace because the manual says so... i don't think so.

Haven't you pulled it done yet Bunny?

[Bunyack]

OK, got everything out today. the first few steel plates were fine but the remaining appear to have burn marks on them. heres some pics.



^^^The markings on the steel plate in the top right are from the cluthc ring that holds the last fibre and steel plate in.












Should there be more meat on the fibre plates?? From what I can see, the plates do ont appear to be warped.

Can anyone diagnose??? plz?

[Desmogod]

All the plates are intact?
Those steels look fucked!
Any metal stuck between the plates when you pulled it apart?
Picture of hub and basket too please.

[Bunyack]

all the plates are intact. nothing inbetween them when I took it out.

Basket looks ok but i'll go take a pic of it.

EDIT: you know how I say stupid things from time to time.

well the above is one of those times.

The tabs on the hub of the clutch basket looks a tad mangled.

I was so focused on the plates i didnt notice the basket. pics uploading atm

[semi]

Originally Posted by Desmogod

All the plates are intact?
Those steels look fucked!
Any metal stuck between the plates when you pulled it apart?
Picture of hub and basket too please.

agree, theres comething wrong there. theyre burned pretty badly

[Desmogod]

Those plates don't look like they have a whole heap of meat left on them mate, might be worth changing them while you have it apart.
Also, with your steels, lay them on a sheet of glass and eyeball them up just to make sure that they really are flat.

EDIT: Just out of interest, how's they oil?
If you can filter it through a pair of your old stockings, I wouldn't mind seeing if there are any particles in there.

[semi]

Use a straight edge to measure them?

[TYSON]

Clutch actually looks like any R1 clutch where the owner clutches it up often. new steels and fibres and it will be all good.

*unless the basket is fucked, but then you would have noticed that pulling the plates out*

[Desmogod]

EDIT:^^^ Never having seen a well used R1 clutch, I wouldn't know. But I don't think it's a rider issue.

Originally Posted by Bunyack

yes it may be because I thrash the bike, I know its most likely the cause, you dont have to remind me. But I stay away from clutching it, most of them are power'd up.

This is a mechanical thing, not an abuse thing.

[Bunyack]

The lock washer at the base of the basket looks to be mangled. pics still uploading/

[Desmogod]

You want a hand mate?
I'm only just down the road.

[Bunyack]

Stupid fucking photobuket keeps crashing.... more pics on the way. does that wasker look FuXord to you??

[TYSON]

Thats fine, no need to remove it.

[Desmogod]

Nope, that's a standard lock washer, it fits over a keyway on your input shaft that stops the washer tuning, then you fold the washer over the nut to stop it coming loose.
Basket looks ok (from what I can see) and the hub looks unabused.
New plates and steels buddy.

EDIT: Beaten by the UberMOD.

[Bunyack]

wait........ for some reason i though that the mangle tab would case a problem with the plates. they dont go anywhere near each other....


the tab that is bent up towards the nut in that picture...... that would case any significant problem would it??? The pull rod doesnt go anywhere near it.

[Bunyack]

So everyone agrees that the steels are FuXored! does this look like the problem>>???


new plates are the solution???

[Orson]

Bunyack- wrecking more plates than a Big Fat Greek Wedding

j/j dude, hope you get it sorted with minimal fuss.