Help! I think my clutch has Sh*t itself. Pics of plates on p5. - Page 4

Desmogod · 02-07-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aphex

Gluck with that... full clutch pack is closer to $1k.

Where are you buying your plates and steels from?

TYSON · 02-07-2008, 06:32 PM

Friction. Im yet to see a broken steel. If you're not confident on pulling it apart i can have a look on sunday.

Aphex · 02-07-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmogod

Where are you buying your plates and steels from?

Was quoted that by a prominant yamaha dealer for full replacement parts for the MT clutch. Guessing the R1 might be a lil cheaper with comments rendered.

Stephan · 02-07-2008, 07:11 PM

Oh, you`ll have soooo much fun refitting the clutchcover...hehehe...they are a bitch on the Yamahas....

Bunyack · 02-07-2008, 09:07 PM

That fucker is off:

Yummy Yammie clutch bastardry basket:

EDIT: ^^^ You like my Frame plugs???

and then I met a slight problem:

You'll notice only one of the spring nuts is off (the top one)..... because my stupid pissy little 10mm socket driver snapped off (its too small to be attached to the big ass wratchet so it came with little piss-ant poxy yellow platsic screw-driver handle which snapped after 1 second of use, but I was able to use an adjustable spanner to torque the first nut off (attaching the spanner to the handle of the socket tool, not the nut, I aint that silly) until the metal shaft snapped. lol

Poxy crap.

So if anyone has a "decent" 10mm socket with a wratchet handle I could borrow, that would be dandy!!

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Originally Posted by TYSON

Friction. Im yet to see a broken steel. If you're not confident on pulling it apart i can have a look on sunday.

That would be fantastic if you are free, Tys. If you have a 10mm wratchet socket, that would slendid.

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Originally Posted by Stephan

Oh, you`ll have soooo much fun refitting the clutchcover...hehehe...they are a bitch on the Yamahas....

I know, so ive been told. The nice popping sound when the gasket released was a sound of doom!!! , but i've heard of a few hints/tricks when reattaching the push rod to the arm on the crankcase, but....... your words will probably come back to haunt me.

If all else fails, I'll get that Mobile Mechanic Gavin Carlini to come and line it up

So...... Im yet to see what the problem is, but Tyson seems pretty confident with his diagnosis. Stay tuned peoples, as this n00b mechanic no-doubtedly goes on to cause more grief and turmoil.

g0zer · 02-07-2008, 09:16 PM

dont worry bunyack.. if it can be pulled apart it will go back together

Bunyack · 02-07-2008, 09:19 PM

I hope you're being nice, not cruel.

oHhhh and I discovered, from the R1-Forum, that you dont need to drop the oil.

Stephan · 02-07-2008, 09:30 PM

Bunnyboy....I`m pretty sure, when you pull out the clutchplates, there are little steelballs behind the last plate. Make sure you don`t lose them. When you put them back together, they might not stay in place. Just get a bit of grease and hold them in place with it. Not sure if its your model tho...

Bunyack · 02-07-2008, 09:35 PM

Steel Balls??!?! good grief!! I dont think so. Ive seen a couple of threads depicting a clutch replacement for the 02-03 model, dont think there are. the last 2 plates are held in with a wire clutch ring that looks like a prick of a thing.

barfridge · 02-07-2008, 09:40 PM

And no big-arsed central nut like on Suzukis. You might not even need a rattle gun.

But for the love of god invest in some half decent tools!

Bunyack · 02-07-2008, 09:42 PM

Stephan · 02-07-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunyack

Steel Balls??!?! good grief!! I dont think so. Ive seen a couple of threads depicting a clutch replacement for the 02-03 model, dont think there are. the last 2 plates are held in with a wire clutch ring that looks like a prick of a thing.

Might be a different year/model...

thro · 02-07-2008, 09:51 PM

Bunyack:

I highly suggest finding the torque settings for any bolts you un-do, and if required, borrow a torque wrench (i have one you can borrow, may even have a 10mm socket).

You really don't want to do what my good mate jez has a habit of... and over-torque/strip threads of anything in there if you can help it

FJ Steve · 03-07-2008, 04:40 AM

Shit...and I thought you always tightened the fukkers up until they were stripped, then back 'em off half a turn.

The things you learn.

robocop · 03-07-2008, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FJ Steve

Shit...and I thought you always tightened the fukkers up until they were stripped, then back 'em off half a turn.

The things you learn.

see thats where ya wrong Steve ya do them up till they SNAP then you back them off 1/4 of a turn

arwon · 03-07-2008, 05:49 AM

this job is a piece of piss Bunny, Clutch adjustment is easy, just be sure to have 3-5mm of freeplay between the lever and the lever mount ( so you see the clutch cable when the lever is pulled) There are no steel balls there. The spring is the diaphram spring that is held on by the 6 bolts. Once you remove them the pressure plate comes off and try not to drop the pull rod that disengages the clutch. Pay attention to which plates come off in what order. the last fibre plate is a different inside diameter than the rest, it has to go back in that order. Near the most inner plates there is a thin spring that id there to help break the clutch plate seal as it were. If this spring in not in place or has snapped then it will cause the problem you have.

While you have all the plates out measure them up as a group for thickness, you will have to check the dimension in the manual but on the 07 it has to be between 41.3 and 43.2 mm. If it is too thin it will slip, you can buy different thickness steel plates for here. Standard is 2.0 mm, you can get 1.7mm and 2.3mm and you have the option of changing up to 2 of the last plates to get the thickness correct.

Steels rarely wear out. When pulled out and before install always soak fibres in engine oil.

My vote goes with the spring clip near the last clutch plate.

I have spare clutch plates and fibre plates at home if you need something.

Putting the cover back on is easy, don't listen to the German.

If you have doubts Gavin will sort it.

Bunyack · 03-07-2008, 06:22 AM

Thanks for the info Glenn.

Desmogod · 03-07-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aphex

Was quoted that by a prominant yamaha dealer for full replacement parts for the MT clutch. Guessing the R1 might be a lil cheaper with comments rendered.

I'd say that would more than likely be for an OEM basket and hub too as well as plates and steels.

likefry · 03-07-2008, 09:41 AM

hey bunyack i'm right around the corner from you and have tools.

Let me know if ya want me to come round

Desmogod · 03-07-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephan

Bunnyboy....I`m pretty sure, when you pull out the clutchplates, there are little steelballs behind the last plate. Make sure you don`t lose them. When you put them back together, they might not stay in place. Just get a bit of grease and hold them in place with it. Not sure if its your model tho...

Thats only on the later slipper clutch models mate, the steel balls work on the slipper ramps and push the plates/steels apart.