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Old 12-01-2009, 05:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Up to 100 Victoria Police officers and employees have been taken into criminal custody or punished for serious disciplinary breaches in only 12 months.
Thirty-two sworn officers have been detained, suspected of offences including rape, child pornography, drug-related offences and perverting the course of justice.
Another 50 officers were punished for breaking internal police rules.
Twenty-two civilian police employees were investigated for crimes and internal breaches.
The figures were obtained by the Sunday Herald Sun newspaper under Freedom of Information.
Ethical Standards Department head Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said: "We believe there is a need for a faster system that allows dismissal of members who are corrupt, involved in criminal offences or have lost the community's confidence."
But the Police Association claims any reforms would give too much power to the Chief Commissioner.
Most of those taken into custody were locked up or questioned as suspects in thefts, assaults, drug crimes, deception offences and misconduct in public office.
The paper says Victoria Police internally disciplined 50 officers with ranks as high as inspector for breaking rules in a recent 12-month period.
The 50 officers received penalties for "disgraceful" and "improper" conduct, illegal moonlighting, criminal acts and disobeying orders from Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon, according to Victoria Police data.
The revelations come as the reputation of Victoria Police reels from criminal and corruption scandals, including allegations of police running an illegal brothel and suspicions of police leaks being linked to gangland executions.
Misbehaving cops caught by police internal affairs, now ESD, include:
TWO inspectors, one demoted, the other put on a good behaviour bond, for disgraceful conduct.
TWO Sen-Sergeants, believed to have been training police officers in Iraq, fined and given good behaviour bonds for non-approved moonlighting.
DISGRACEFUL conduct by a Sen-Sgt and six Sen-Constables leading to a dismissal, demotion, promotion freeze and transfer freeze.
A SERGEANT and 16 Sen-Constables who refused to follow an order of the Chief Commissioner, leading to a promotion freeze, a demotion, four reprimands, four fines and seven bonds.
SIX officers proven guilty of a criminal offence, leading to a dismissal, reprimand, promotion freeze and three bonds.
A SEN-CONSTABLE and constable put on bonds after committing an offence punishable by jail.
FOUR constables found negligent in discharge of duty, but given no penalty.
AND improper conduct by a Sen-Sgt, five Sen-Constables, a leading Sen-Constable and two constables leading to four bonds, two fines, a dismissal, a reprimand and a transfer.
Another four unsworn force employees were also given good behaviour bonds after being found guilty of serious misconduct.
Victoria Police refused to identify the alleged culprits or reveal details of their alleged offences
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It is a fair point about giving too much power to the Chief Commissioner. I mean, fair enough, increase the powers of regular police officers so that they can deal with the public more severely, but why give those above them power enough to keep them in line/get rid of them?
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I mean, fair enough, increase the powers of regular police officers so that they can deal with the public more severely
I could not disagree more with you. The courts are the people who punish law breakers, not the police.

Giving them more power is only going to lead to more corruption. I say they should be held more accountable.
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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A SERGEANT and 16 Sen-Constables who refused to follow an order of the Chief Commissioner, leading to a promotion freeze, a demotion, four reprimands, four fines and seven bonds.
I'm wondering if, in this case, the Sergeant has disagreed with the order from the Chief Commissioner, and the Sen-Constables have simply followed orders from their direct superior, OR if the order was worthy of 17 people disagreeing with it. Either way, sounds pretty unfair.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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^^ unless it was something like refusing to place a camera in a particular spot for revenue raising, refusing to crack down on FEs or something.

Without knowing *what* possible police commissioner bullshit they refused to follow, who knows whether its actually *bad* or not.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I could not disagree more with you. The courts are the people who punish law breakers, not the police.

Giving them more power is only going to lead to more corruption. I say they should be held more accountable.
Unless I've missed an IN joke or something, I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Surprised there were any good ones to lay charges, Oh wait, you don't get charged in the police force you get demoted.
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Old 12-01-2009, 11:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Unless I've missed an IN joke or something, I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.


The police keep being given more power, I just find it funny that they'd object to having anyone above them having more power to deal with internal matters.

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Only 100?
Were actually caught... Which surprised me. Almost gives me faith that there is a reasonable number of good cops. That, or just people who pissed off other corrupt ones.
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Old 12-01-2009, 11:57 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Just makes you think if they're even looking internally at WAPOL, hearing and seeing for myself some of the corrupt ones that let a bad day influence their judgment so badly.
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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"We believe there is a need for a faster system that allows dismissal of members who ... have lost the community's confidence."
That'd basically disband the entire service.
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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That'd basically disband the entire service.
Haha, I did think that when I read it. "Fuck, there'd be like 2 guys left."
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^^ unless it was something like refusing to place a camera in a particular spot for revenue raising, refusing to crack down on FEs or something.

Without knowing *what* possible police commissioner bullshit they refused to follow, who knows whether its actually *bad* or not.
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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There's probably a lot more that get away with it for each one caught.
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