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    auto engineer mx5 turbo

    Hi all,

    Though it's a motorcycle forum, I figure there has to be some overlap with cars...

    Have a 1999 anniversary edition Mazda MX 5.

    On one of the other forums, a factory SE turbo has come up.

    Anyone see any problems with fitting/constabulary/registration?

    Anyone know somebody good in perth who could fit?

    It's my daily drive when not on the bike, so need it to be all legit and road worthy.

    Advice welcome and thanks in advance,

    T

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    If you get all the bits fitting would be easy enough for someone who knows what they are doing.
    Reliability may become an issue, N/A engines that get turbo's strapped to them can cause problems. Some are strong enough others aren't.
    Cops hate turbo's period. Especially non factory jobs. Expect defects.
    Insurance hate turbo cars Especially non factory jobs, depending on your situation Just Cars will probably be the only ones that will touch you.
    Can be made legal but is a lot of pissfarting around. (have to pass pits, paperwork ect.

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    13btt rotary...


    ...you know you want to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Stevo- View Post
    13btt rotary...


    ...you know you want to...
    do eeet
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    Quote Originally Posted by slug2 View Post
    Hi all,

    Though it's a motorcycle forum, I figure there has to be some overlap with cars...

    Have a 1999 anniversary edition Mazda MX 5.

    On one of the other forums, a factory SE turbo has come up.

    Anyone see any problems with fitting/constabulary/registration?

    Anyone know somebody good in perth who could fit?

    It's my daily drive when not on the bike, so need it to be all legit and road worthy.

    Advice welcome and thanks in advance,

    T
    You're modifying the vehicle from orginal ADR compliancy which is stated on the compliance plate. Any modifications must be approved and signed for by a mechanical engineer with the proper approval rating, then taken over pits for inspection. Without this paperwork your car is illegal, and if you crash it, insurance will not pay out.

    Its a headache, its a mess around, and for an MX-5 its hardly worth it.

    For the same amount of stuffing around paperwork-wise, I'd go with the rotary.
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    I would talk to the guys at traffic and an engineer that can sign off on the job.

    If you are using all factory parts that come from an ADR compliant model, you may only have to get it inspected and signed off on.

    Research first
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    Its my understanding that if you modify the powerplant from its orginal ADR specs, you need engineering approval. I went through this process not long ago with putting a 351 Cleveland (with the factory mounts) into a XY Falcon that originally ran a inline 6. Both engines were approved in the same chassis design as per ADR, but because we'd changed the engine to something other than stated on the compliance plate, it required engineering approval. Its my understanding that turbo and supercharging fall into this same category.

    But indeed, I agree. Research it first and see what DPI have to say.
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    We are saying the same thing, it requires approval. But I was saying it sometimes requires less work for the engineer if it as an optional system for that model. Instead of engineering certificates for every modification, it may only require an engineer to sign off that the vehicle meets the requirements for the higher spec model.
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    join the mx5 club if you havent already. There are a few se's and even a couple of sp's my dad's is one. There have been a few na's turboed there. Na is the model, not naturaly aspirated
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    you might also find that with the extra power you might be required to upgrade the brakes. not 100% sure about WA's laws but in nsw you cant have shit car with crap brakes and a huge donk.
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    Chatted to a bloke two days ago that has an mx5 SE turbo. He was telling me that initially none of the Mazda dealership mechanics knew they were a factory fitted turbo and thought he'd done a real clean job of bolting it on. Looked alright in black. Still prefer a Lotus Elise or Exige as far as small cars go.

    You could always put an SR20det in it or go mad and drop a Lexus V8 in it. It's been done before. Oh and none of this helps answer your question, I just thought it was an odd coincidence seeing one of the factory turboed mx5's and you asking about bolting one on.
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    +1 for a sr20det.

    theres a couple in perth.

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    Thanks all- think it's falling into the too hard and not sufficiently motivated basket. Not worth the risk of insurance/pits/rego.

    T

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    You might also find that the n/a ones have a higher compression ratio than the factory turbo ones, and that bolting a turbo onto an originally n/a engine would end up with too much compression = exploding MX5 = sad you

    Fitting low compression pistons would fix that, but then it's just so much easier ( and probably cheaper ) to get a complete factory turbo engine and drop it into your car.

    Ring up some of these joints that import front ends from Japan. It's the whole front of the car from the firewall forward, so you get the engine, computer, hoses, fitings, gearbox ( frontwheel drive ) blah blah blah. MX5 is rear wheel drive, some one will no doubt have turbo engine / gearbox combo freshly imported.
    This department requires no physical fitness program, as everyone gets more than enough exercise jumping to conclusions, flying off the handle, running down the boss, dodging responsibility, and pushing their luck.

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