Cyclist Hit by car

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Just got a call from my brother. He and 2 mates where out training for tri's last night when a car pulled out in front of them in Rocko. It missed by brother, he was the first bike, the second bike had to react quick but unfortunatly they hit Rodger the third bike.

Rodger is ok and was taken to hospital for a full check up. This helmet split apart in three places and probably saved his life.

A big thank you to veryone that stopped and offered help including the guy that gave up his shirt.

[shmoo]

did the fucker who hit him stop too?

hope he's ok.

[Captain Starfish]

For as long as bicyclists insist on clogging up the roads with their low speed, high frustration vulnerability, they're going to get hit by cars.

Still, glad to hear he's ok.

[shmoo]

For as long as bicyclists insist on clogging up the roads with their low speed, high frustration vulnerability, they're going to get hit by cars.

Still, glad to hear he's ok.

yeah I know what you mean.

I'm still in two minds on cyclists. On one hand I think we need more people using bikes (mainly in terms of community health but also less cars on road), but on the other hand, they can cause a giant cluster fuck on the roads.

There are certainly some roads that should not under any circumstances have bikes on them. Roads like Stirling Highway, GE Hwy, etc etc etc. Also, if there is a bike lane or bike path next to the road, then cyclists should be forced by law to use that instead of taking up road space.

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The car diver did stop. These guys do not ride slow and take up the road. They ride single file and 1/2 the time they would be going close to the speed limit. So where else are the ment to ride their 10k bikes. On the foot path running down people?

They are entitled to ride on the road as well and they do so as safely as posible.
They try to stay off main roads because its not fun or safe for them. Allot of people in the community believe that motor bikes should not be alound either.

[Captain Starfish]

I'm well aware of the law regarding bicycles on the road, footer, I know they're entitled to be on the road legally. And these guys may be the exception to the general rule as far as speed is concerned. Most of my own experience of pushies on the road has been groups or even pairs side-by-side sitting on 20-40km/h and these guys almost deserve to be run down like the soft chicanes they are.

Perth has a HUGE cyclepath/dual use path system built for people who want to go for a ride... (just sayin)

[Desmo]

They are entitled to ride on the road as well and they do so as safely as posible.
They try to stay off main roads because its not fun or safe for them. Allot of people in the community believe that motor bikes should not be alound either.

Blah blah blah.
Keep up with the flow of traffic, stop completely ignoring road signals like stop lights, or get off the roads.
Simple.
And they don't try and stay off the roads, I have seen them cycling on the roads when they have a cycle path 5 foot to their left.

[Captain Starfish]

But, Desmo, why should l33t fast pushbikes have to put up with the danger, frustration and inconvenience of having to wait for or dodge around the slow cyclists on the cycleways????

[Desmo]

Or wait for traffic lights or stop signs.
"I paid $10K for my pushy, I'm better than you"

[polonY]

I agree wholeheartedly with desmo and cs here. Polltime?

Nothing wrong with going for a cycle, but if you're so exhausted that you are swaying around on the lane then get off the road, you're gonna get a slap from me when i ride past.

[Cip]

i thought if there were 3+ pushies they were allowed to take up a lane *shrugs*

sucky news. i worried about this heaps when i used to ride to work. you basically wear no gear and you're still doing decent speeds over the worst of the road

oh by the way; if i'm peddling while you're sitting on your arse on your motorbike or in your car, don't be surprised if i want to take advantage of being able to jump kerbs, avoid lights and stop signs and filter cars. just like motorbikes; pushies have their advantages too. you guys can come across just like cage driving motorcycle haters who see them filter and hate them for it.

[Griff]

Cyclists manage to make me unreasonable on a regular basis... Possibly flow to a rant even!

Glad these guys are OK, glad the driver stopped, sorry that it happened - but jeeze, in general, cyclists shit me often!

NOw I am a vehicle, NOW I am a pedestrian, now I ride here, now I ride there... Road rules don't apply. It's rush hour so let's all go training on the roads ... we don't pay rego but teh tax-payers, rate-payers build us cycle-ways, and we don't ride on 'em, we ride on the road next to them...

Plod don't control them - and they do get in the way alot!

[Desmo]

oh by the way; if i'm peddling while you're sitting on your arse on your motorbike or in your car, don't be surprised if i want to take advantage of being able to jump kerbs, avoid lights and stop signs and filter cars. just like motorbikes; pushies have their advantages too. you guys can come across just like cage driving motorcycle haters who see them filter and hate them for it.

You mean they make you so superior that the road rules don't apply to you?

[Griff]

you guys can come across just like cage driving motorcycle haters who see them filter and hate them for it.

Fair comment - hence no rant - but the FFS is gonna creep out under the breath - past the hypocrite gland - and often

[Captain Starfish]

I don't have a problem with pushies jumping kerbs or frequently and spontaneously making that jump between "Oh I'm a vehicle, so I'm not jaywalking" and "Oh, I'm a pedestrian so I'm not really blowing a red light" unless it's being done stupidly and making me reach for my brakes. Same as I DGAF if motorbikes split when I'm in the cage, unless they're being asshats about it.

I do object (and this is pretty much my sole objection to pushbikes on the road) to having to sit at 20km/h on a 60 or 70 km/h road because some lycra wearing fuckfaces have decided they should ride double (or single but in the middle of the lane) up that hill.

That is when I start looking at the roo bar of my envirorapist 4WD, think about the fun I used to have playing Grand Theft Auto, think about the special place in Hell that's reserved for these pole smokers and what a service to humanity I'd be doing to extradite their journey to that inevitable destination.

[richie_b]

one reason i think cyclists avoid the 'cycle paths' is that when it gets twisty or bumpy they have to slow down and building up speed takes lot of effort on them.

[sandman]

There are three very good reason's cyclist's avoid cycle path's:

a - They contain pedestrians who have right of way, meaning a decent training ride is dangerous and hard to achieve.
b - Cycle paths are rarely swept/cleaned meaning they are scattered with glass, debris and sand causing punctures and crashes
c - When entering and exiting pathways you must give way to cars. If you think about your average roadside footpath this means stopping every few hundred feet.


Re: riding on the road and they way they go about it, I have regularly seen advice suggesting this is a safer approach.

The theory being that many drivers are discourteous pass slow moving cyclists without overtaking safely causing accidents. Riding in a two or three breath formation or riding taking up 1/2 the lane better ensure visibility, and encourages vehicles to overtake at a sensible point of the road and in a safe manner.

I actually think there is a certain sense of irony that as a members of a road using minority ( motorcyclist ) and the shit motorcyclist are made to put up that some of us are unable to sympathise with cyclists and the like.

[Pete]

I do object (and this is pretty much my sole objection to pushbikes on the road) to having to sit at 20km/h on a 60 or 70 km/h road because some lycra wearing fuckfaces have decided they should ride double (or single but in the middle of the lane) up that hill.

Funny i never see this. But i do ride on the roads because they are smoother and results in less broken wheels then perth bike paths. Perth has a massive bike path network but most dont join or are in bad repair so you end up doing stints on and off the road everywhere you go.

[Commander Keen]

There are three very good reason's cyclist's avoid cycle path's:

a - They contain pedestrians who have right of way, meaning a decent training ride is dangerous and hard to achieve.
b - Cycle paths are rarely swept/cleaned meaning they are scattered with glass, debris and sand causing punctures and crashes
c - When entering and exiting pathways you must give way to cars. If you think about your average roadside footpath this means stopping every few hundred feet.

A footpath path is not a cyclepath. There are cycle lanes on a lot of major and minor roads around perth as well as dual-use paths along the river/kings park/everywhere.

[richie_b]

actually there are some that are meant as both cycle and footpath, there is a map around some where on a govt web site