Getting into audio mixing - any help?

[harns]

hey everyone, Im looking at getting some hardware now that ive got the hang of the basics with my virtual dj program..
Can anyone offer advice, or point me in the direction of some advice on what works well and some good products? the idj and ns7 look pretty good.
I just mainly wanna blend songs and screw with them for parties ect.. cheers

[Shady7/8]

I think I just threw up in my mouth... an IDJ??? an NS7?

I'm an unbeleiver in Serrato - drag n drop DJing is NOT DJing (even CDJ which I do is cheating IMHO)

BUT... If you want to play with digital then have a look here. I bought my kit from them and found them cheapest with good info and range

DJWarehouse

[druu]

Digital djing is not cheating. Get with the times hey.

If you're looking at getting more into it, give Traktor a go. There's also a lot more midi controllers that ard built for traktor and work seamlessly.

Ignore the previous post, you'll read a lot about ppl claiming its cheating but have a look at what todays world reknowned djs use, maìnstream and underground. I could elaborate more later, on a phone atm.
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[Aphex]

I think I just threw up in my mouth... an IDJ??? an NS7?

I'm an unbeleiver in Serrato - drag n drop DJing is NOT DJing (even CDJ which I do is cheating IMHO)

BUT...
Have a look here. I bought my kit from them and found them cheapest with good info and range

DJWarehouse

I guess Tiesto's a cheat then huh? Vynal's had it's day Leave the nostalgia behind and get with the times.

A couple of local places to try before you buy. Here and here.

Fk the haters with their wheels-a-steel and stupidly priced stylus.

[druu]

Word.

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[Mex]

Vinyl will never die... and digital djing is only cheating if you press the SYNC button and dont beat match yourself... i have a BCD3000 ($250) for keeping the ear in and toying with. ok for casual house parties... whats your budget? that will soon determine what you can get.

[druu]

Its not cheating ffs, beatmatching is the past. Make room for creative fx and triple drops WITH creative fx.

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[chee]

lulz. cheating.

so... cdj's = cheating, traktor / serato / ableton = cheating.

therefore. fuel injection = cheating, abs = cheating etc etc.

kek.

[harns]

around 1-2k.. i have some speakers but eventually ill upgrade

[druu]

Exactly. I might add tho, in the end they are purely tools, how u use them is what really counts. You're on the stage, u gotta look busy.

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[Aphex]

around 1-2k.. i have some speakers but eventually ill upgrade

best be trying second hand for that budget

[druu]

Traktor, a good controller and some decent headphones/speakers are all u need to start off.
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[harns]

im aquiring traktor now... its hard fading/blending and cotrolling a few things at once with a mouse thats why im interested in some hardware

[druu]

Check out the VCI or VCM 600 or check the NI website for recommended controllers. Youtube for tutorials, learn EQ ing first and foremost. Then dive into fx n looping, harmonic mixing, etc.
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[Goofy]

Depends on what you want to play really.

Traktor, Ableton etc... are good for the digital DJ and easy enough for anyone to pick up and play with. I think what Shadow 7/8ths was getting at is that there are so many guys out there that only use the digital platform, they cant beatmatch, they can't mix, they pretty much can't do anything unless the program does it. If they haven't got access to it then they can't play, they just trainwreck. there's no skill in pressing auto sync, auto cue and then mixing.

I prefer mixing on CD's to digital, I find there's more feel to it as mixing MP3's feels a little too detatched for me. I enjoy mixing Vinyl the most, but it's rather expensive.

Pretty much every concert or club I've been to uses the Pioneer CDJ1000MK3, expensive, but easy to use. The CDJ400 can be used as a MIDI controller for Traktor, is a bit cheaper and a bit smaller. Pioneer is not the be all and end all though.

If you have 2k to spare this will allow you to mix on CD's as well as Traktor http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/cat/in...uct_id=1172945 Dennon is a well trusted brand and will last a long time. They're reliable, they are repairable and they hold their value reasonably well.

[Shady7/8]

hehehehe Looks like I got the debate going!

Goofy's right... My opinion is most people use digital and don't bother learning how to beatmatch or the fundamentals of DJing.
I'm running on Denon DNS3500's with a Beringher DJX750 - 4 channel mixer so I can add on vinyl or heaven forbid digital inputs... One day I'll add an effects unit. But not interested in learning Vinyl til I've at least got a decent command of mixing on CD's

That kit Goofy linked let's you 'DJ' like on a turntable with your digital sounds same as the NS7 but with the flexibility of using CD's as well which I'd seriously consider for anyone interestd. Don't rule out ever wanting to flick CD's into the mix, and learning how to beatmatch as well.

Ps Pioneeer gear... it's a name.. sire it's a nice name but like buying a CBR250... it's not worth that much.

Tiesto and a lot of the other big names use digital addons to support what they are doing but they will not rely on it.

[druu]

I think we're beginning to see eye to eye here now. But ill say again, its not about what u use, but how u use it. In the end its all about whether you can pump the crowd.

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[chee]

i was using ableton for a bit.

but opted for some cdj800mk2's since i prefer the hands on feel.

will probably get a djm800 sometime in the future.

[Goofy]

I'd rate this over the DJM800 Chee Allen & Heath Xone 92 Dance Mixer*-*DJ Mixers - Dance Mixers | DJ Warehouse

The DJM is a great mixer though I just prefer the Allen and Heath.

My current setup is
2x Vestax CDx-05 CD Players
Behringer DJX-700 4 channel mixer
2x Technics 1200 turntables

The other thing to consider Harns, is getting a decent set of headphones for beatmatching, cueing and monitoring your mix

[druu]

Have a look at todays Xpress, back pages. Theres some hardware adv in there.

Chee, ableton can be just as hands on with some controllers. ;-)

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