How can a cage beat a bike at the drags?

[Cone Cat]

It's amazing the kind of stuff you talk about when it's late at night and the beers are plentiful.

A few mates around my place recently and the conversation turned to the subject of drag racing over the quarter mile between a car and a bike. Yeah, the bike would win every time. So the conversation then turned to the question of what would it take for the car to win over the bike?

Yeah, we where drinking quite a lot.

So we layed down some ground rules. A budget of around $30 kay for each which pretty much gives us a rock stock Commodore Omega v6 car and something like the new Yamaha Vmax strip monster. To stop any arguements about actual times we assumed the Omega would pull consistent 15.0 second quarters and the vmax 11.0. Both probably do a little better but essentially, a 4 second difference.

So, how to turn the tables on this mismatch? We came up with a surprising number of different methods. So get your brains working and see what you can come up with. Here is an example;

A reverse drag race. Both bike and car race in reverse. Omega has a reverse gear. Bike doesn't. Omega crosses the line in 30 seconds @ 50kmh, rider takes 4 minutes to push the vmax backwards up the track to the finish line.

Get the idea? Right then get to it!

[g0zer]

why does it have to be a V6 commodore? thats not exactly a sports car.

what about an RX3 with 20B rotary and slicks?

Mazda Rotary 20B RX-3 9.6 @141mph, from the old ww - Car Videos on StreetFire

[chee]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7JenMexS-U]YouTube - gtr eta 10.22 drag pass[/ame]

one of the members on psb owns this particular car. plex dont let him run because of no cage and parachute.

[STEEDS]

If you had 30k for a bike youd buy a Kawa ZX1400 then turbo!

and do this....
2007 ZX-14 Super Street bike

Then put a frikn awesome rider on it!


If i hook up my nos bottle to my 383 stroker i would prob run low 10's maybe less - and that only owes me 15k all up (ish )

[Maxo]

A few mates around my place recently and the conversation turned to the subject of drag racing over the quarter mile between a car and a bike. Yeah, the bike would win every time.

yeah nah.

[Cone Cat]

why does it have to be a V6 commodore? thats not exactly a sports car.

what about an RX3 with 20B rotary and slicks?

Mazda Rotary 20B RX-3 9.6 @141mph, from the old ww - Car Videos on StreetFire

Point was that the car is supposed to be slower than the bike in a straight drag race. But, if you can think up a way where a 15 second car could beat an 11 second bike... Ah, whats the point.

Thread fail.

[Maxo]

But, if you can think up a way where a 15 second car could beat an 11 second bike...

Thread fail.

yes.

[Mr DJ]

Epic...

[timmay]

if you had 30k, and wanted a performance car, why would you get an omega?
could get a fully cammed vx clubby for that with all the work done,
and still have change.

[wannabee]

All you'd need to do is get a shit rider...
Stall it at the lights... BAM! Cars over the line before he's even got it runing again...

Alternatively... car accidently drifts into the wrong lane from wheel spin (hurr hurr!)

[Revelations]

the point was timmay to have a 15sec car to play with. Even stock the vx clubby prob is a 14sec car. With a lot of work it could get to 11secs, but your only bridging 3 secs not 4.
So objective- find a 15 sec car dump 30k on it to go 11secs and thus prob beat a vmax? hows my aim?

[timmay]

for less than 10k you could make a stock v8 a 10 second car probably.
twin turbo the v6 would probably come close.

[Barfrangipani]

and the Vmax is a 9 second bike straight out of the box...

[mark_r]

the point was timmay to have a 15sec car to play with. Even stock the vx clubby prob is a 14sec car. With a lot of work it could get to 11secs, but your only bridging 3 secs not 4.
So objective- find a 15 sec car dump 30k on it to go 11secs and thus prob beat a vmax? hows my aim?

My read on the point of this thread was to come up with unusual variations to the standard drag racing theme, to allow a car which would normally be slower, to instead win.

eg - make them go backwards.

My example would be to make there be two people in/on each vehicle - one to steer and other to operate throttle/brakes - almost impossible on bike due to throttle grip.

Still seems and incredibly pointless thread.

[Roger Explosion]

for less than 10k you could make a stock v8 a 10 second car probably.
twin turbo the v6 would probably come close.

no chance. To get a car to run 10 second, you need a budget a little higher than 10 grand

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[Lord Farquaad]

Maybe not 10s, but 11s on a VX clubby would be very doable for under 10k.
Mafless tune, decent exhaust, remove a bunch of shit, slicks and some gearbox work then cams if you have the money.

[Cone Cat]

the point was timmay to have a 15sec car to play with. Even stock the vx clubby prob is a 14sec car. With a lot of work it could get to 11secs, but your only bridging 3 secs not 4.
So objective- find a 15 sec car dump 30k on it to go 11secs and thus prob beat a vmax? hows my aim?

Nope. Gee, do I really suck that hard at writing threads?

Ok, I'll give it another shot.

This is a challenge. The idea is to drag race a bog stock v6 commodore sedan against a Yamaha Vmax and win with the commodore. Doesn't have to be a commodore/vmax, just a car/bike combo where the bike is much faster than the car.
The challenge is to find a scenario to apply to both car & bike where the car will win the drag race against the much faster bike.

Rules of the challenge.

1). Both car and bike are stock. No mods allowed as far as performance goes but anything goes as far as safety or any mods needed to meet the requirements of the challenge.
2). Assume that the commodore runs 15.0 seconds normally and the bike runs 9.0 second normally.

An example scenario where the commodore will beat the vmax.

Both car & bike must drag race backwards. Why does the car win? Obvious. It has a reverse gear and the bike doesn't. Rider then has to push the bike backwards down the track and take minutes to do so while the commodore driver chucks it in reverse ftw.

idea of the thread was to see how many different scenario's we can come up with where the stock commodore will beat a vmax.

And yes, I suck at thread writing. But it's friday so it's all good!

Barfridge.

I thought that to, that the vmax was a lot faster than 11 secs. Edited.

markr

You got the idea there.

Yes thread is pointless. Totally. Might be better with beer.

[Lord Farquaad]

This thread just got a lot stupider.

[Wilson]

at first i was like this:

then I was like this:

then this:

Now I'm like:

[Professor Redfern]

Run in, bash the rider, take a dump in his helmet and then punch him in the cock.