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20-11-2009 10:54 AM #1
How can a cage beat a bike at the drags?
It's amazing the kind of stuff you talk about when it's late at night and the beers are plentiful.
A few mates around my place recently and the conversation turned to the subject of drag racing over the quarter mile between a car and a bike. Yeah, the bike would win every time. So the conversation then turned to the question of what would it take for the car to win over the bike?
Yeah, we where drinking quite a lot.
So we layed down some ground rules. A budget of around $30 kay for each which pretty much gives us a rock stock Commodore Omega v6 car and something like the new Yamaha Vmax strip monster. To stop any arguements about actual times we assumed the Omega would pull consistent 15.0 second quarters and the vmax 11.0. Both probably do a little better but essentially, a 4 second difference.
So, how to turn the tables on this mismatch? We came up with a surprising number of different methods. So get your brains working and see what you can come up with. Here is an example;
A reverse drag race. Both bike and car race in reverse. Omega has a reverse gear. Bike doesn't. Omega crosses the line in 30 seconds @ 50kmh, rider takes 4 minutes to push the vmax backwards up the track to the finish line.
Get the idea? Right then get to it!
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20-11-2009 11:05 AM #2
why does it have to be a V6 commodore? thats not exactly a sports car.
what about an RX3 with 20B rotary and slicks?
Mazda Rotary 20B RX-3 9.6 @141mph, from the old ww - Car Videos on StreetFire
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20-11-2009 11:13 AM #3
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7JenMexS-U]YouTube - gtr eta 10.22 drag pass[/ame]
one of the members on psb owns this particular car. plex dont let him run because of no cage and parachute.
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20-11-2009 11:21 AM #4
If you had 30k for a bike youd buy a Kawa ZX1400 then turbo!
and do this....
2007 ZX-14 Super Street bike
Then put a frikn awesome rider on it!
If i hook up my nos bottle to my 383 stroker i would prob run low 10's maybe less - and that only owes me 15k all up (ish
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STEEDS - Honda CB1000R Streetfighter / Super Naked Build
http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...-build-100552/
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20-11-2009 11:25 AM #5yeah nah.A few mates around my place recently and the conversation turned to the subject of drag racing over the quarter mile between a car and a bike. Yeah, the bike would win every time.
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20-11-2009 11:57 AM #6
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20-11-2009 11:59 AM #7
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20-11-2009 12:14 PM #8
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20-11-2009 12:18 PM #9
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20-11-2009 12:20 PM #10
All you'd need to do is get a shit rider...
Stall it at the lights... BAM! Cars over the line before he's even got it runing again...
Alternatively... car accidently drifts into the wrong lane from wheel spin (hurr hurr!)Christianity... It's just one woman's lie about having an affair that got seriously out of hand.
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20-11-2009 12:21 PM #11
the point was timmay to have a 15sec car to play with. Even stock the vx clubby prob is a 14sec car. With a lot of work it could get to 11secs, but your only bridging 3 secs not 4.
So objective- find a 15 sec car dump 30k on it to go 11secs and thus prob beat a vmax? hows my aim?
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20-11-2009 12:32 PM #12
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20-11-2009 12:44 PM #13
and the Vmax is a 9 second bike straight out of the box...
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20-11-2009 12:48 PM #14
My read on the point of this thread was to come up with unusual variations to the standard drag racing theme, to allow a car which would normally be slower, to instead win.
eg - make them go backwards.
My example would be to make there be two people in/on each vehicle - one to steer and other to operate throttle/brakes - almost impossible on bike due to throttle grip.
Still seems and incredibly pointless thread.
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20-11-2009 12:49 PM #15
Re:How can a cage beat a bike at the drags?
J's law,
"As an online discussion on PSB grows longer, the probability of someone blaming Kevin Rudd approaches 1."
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20-11-2009 12:56 PM #16
Maybe not 10s, but 11s on a VX clubby would be very doable for under 10k.
Mafless tune, decent exhaust, remove a bunch of shit, slicks and some gearbox work then cams if you have the money.If cleanliness is next to godliness, why was jesus a dirty sandal-wearing beardo?
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20-11-2009 12:59 PM #17
Nope. Gee, do I really suck that hard at writing threads?

Ok, I'll give it another shot.
This is a challenge. The idea is to drag race a bog stock v6 commodore sedan against a Yamaha Vmax and win with the commodore. Doesn't have to be a commodore/vmax, just a car/bike combo where the bike is much faster than the car.
The challenge is to find a scenario to apply to both car & bike where the car will win the drag race against the much faster bike.
Rules of the challenge.
1). Both car and bike are stock. No mods allowed as far as performance goes but anything goes as far as safety or any mods needed to meet the requirements of the challenge.
2). Assume that the commodore runs 15.0 seconds normally and the bike runs 9.0 second normally.
An example scenario where the commodore will beat the vmax.
Both car & bike must drag race backwards. Why does the car win? Obvious. It has a reverse gear and the bike doesn't. Rider then has to push the bike backwards down the track and take minutes to do so while the commodore driver chucks it in reverse ftw.
idea of the thread was to see how many different scenario's we can come up with where the stock commodore will beat a vmax.
And yes, I suck at thread writing. But it's friday so it's all good!
Barfridge.
I thought that to, that the vmax was a lot faster than 11 secs. Edited.
markr
You got the idea there.
Yes thread is pointless. Totally. Might be better with beer.Last edited by Audible; 20-11-2009 at 01:06 PM.
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20-11-2009 01:00 PM #18
This thread just got a lot stupider.
If cleanliness is next to godliness, why was jesus a dirty sandal-wearing beardo?
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20-11-2009 01:06 PM #19
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20-11-2009 01:06 PM #20
Run in, bash the rider, take a dump in his helmet and then punch him in the cock.
Showers are the opiate of the fragrant.
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