Shock! Horror! Speed doesn't kill!

[Sventek]

Michigan Police Chiefs Admit Speeding Tickets Are About Money

[Sumatie]

That's right excessive speed in unsafe circumstances kills.

[Desmogod]

Yet the cops still feel the need to exercise shitty policy, bad policing and self important arrogance in doing you even when you take your riding and speeding to safe places.

[browncow]

Drinking, Drugs and innatentiveness.

What a revalation.
Shame if an Australian Cop said this, he'd probably get quietly sacked and Kommissar el Dorro Diablo would come out and say that multanova's are the only way to save the children...

[Ryven]

THIS CAN'T BE POSSIBLE! SPEEDING TICKETS DON'T GENERATE ANY REVENUE!!!!111elevenone!

[Green_Ant]

Originally Posted by Ryven

THIS CAN'T BE POSSIBLE! SPEEDING TICKETS DON'T GENERATE ANY REVENUE!!!!111elevenone!

Yes they do

[Gryphen]

Originally Posted by Realmenwearkilts

Yes they do

OOPS... you seem to have failed at Sarcasm recognition 101... Pls go to the back of the classroom.....

[clobber]

Originally Posted by Desmogod

Yet the cops still feel the need to exercise shitty policy, bad policing and self important arrogance in doing you even when you take your riding and speeding to safe places.

What!! Can the cops give you a ticket for speeding on a race track? I am assumming you mean a race track as a safe place to speed. Other wise you would be suggesting that it is a bad policy for police to issue infringements to speeding drivers/riders on public roads and that doesnt make sense.

[thro]

Originally Posted by clobber

What!! Can the cops give you a ticket for speeding on a race track? I am assumming you mean a race track as a safe place to speed. Other wise you would be suggesting that it is a bad policy for police to issue infringements to speeding drivers/riders on public roads and that doesnt make sense.

Nice trolling.


However, you can't tell me that a sports bike doing 140km/h down roe hwy (for example) in light/no traffic is any less safe than a multi trailer road train doing 100km/h on a country road.

One of those events is almost loss of license - the other is 100% legal.

[D'Artagnan]

As we all know "Speed was a factor" means "They were not stationary". As said above, inappropriate behaviour is the issue. Fatigue (sleepy), distractions(mobiles, screaming kids, annoying mates in the backseat), impairment (drugs, alcohol) are dangerous even before the vehicle moves. Once you look at the stats from a "inappropriate speed" slant rather than a "it's moving" point of view, then the other issues weigh very highly in being a causal factor.

D'Art

[g0zer]

accidents kill and not flowing with traffic causes accidents

people who drive around at -x km/h are just as dangerous as people who are driving around at +x km/h. for traffic flowing in 1 direction (such as our freeways and other high speed highways) both travelling faster and slower than the mean will increase risk of being involved in an accident. [ref. Solomon, "Accidents on Main Rural Highways Related to Speed, Driver, and Vehicle"]

100% of the focus is on fining people who exceed speed limits, where you can now recieve a ticket for travelling 116kmh in a 110kmh zone.

Have you ever heard of anyone being ticketed for travelling too slowly?

all the road trains and gray nomads travelling at between 80-100km/h in our 110kmh zones are the reason why people are on the wrong side of the road passing.

if you try to pass a 36m road train who is doing 100km/h without exceeding the speed limit, you will be on the wrong side of the road for at least 20s and require a minimum of 1200m of clear vision. by passing at 130km/h you can reduce that to ~ 8s and 400m.

it is deviations from the mean that kill, not speeding.

someone that doesnt know how to use their accelerator pulling away from the lights in a 70kmh zone, who is still doing 35kmh when everyone else is doing 70km/h is far more dangerous than someone doing 80km/h, who will get a traffic violation? (Note that same slow mofo will be the reason why the car behind them gets frustrated and snaps a lane change without making sure its safe to do so, straight into your bike).

[jonnyking]

wish i could rep that g0zer

often thought along the same lines but never been able to word it that way.

i have heard of somebody failing a driving test for driving too slow. shame the cops don't enforce this on a normal day

[g0zer]

its important for personal safety as motorcyclists not to get sucked into the BS speed kills propaganda.

flowing with traffic is far more important to staying alive than riding along in the left hand lane with your concentration divided between staring at your speedo and scanning the verges for multinovas.

[Diddles]

Originally Posted by g0zer

Have you ever heard of anyone being ticketed for travelling too slowly?

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Yep; mum got fined and yellow stickered for 78 on the freeway

[g0zer]

ok i rephase my previous statement from 100% to 99.999999% of the focus is +ve :p