West This Morning - Couple suing over road conditions

[GreenMeanie]

Brother.

Know the Norseman - Hyden Rd well. It's actually a track. I've been through there several times over the years, it has neither got better or worse on average. Maintenance on it is minimal. But, it is just a track.
It is no different to the Gun Barrel, the Canning Stock Route or the 1000s of other roads/tracks in this country.

Before I am "Yellow Stickered" again for being inappropriate and callous, "I'm sorry their daughter died".

But I'm sorry, your wife was driving, and driving way outside her abilities or way outside the conditions of the road or both.

I'm sorry. You killed your own daughter. You were driving. No, the government doesn't owe you "shit"!

Some silly fuck actually passed you out and gave you a drivers license. As I understand, how it works you are "A Driver" from that point on.

The article states, "Mrs. Healey lost control of the car on the gravel track and it rolled several times."

Ok. I wasn't there, but as a guess, rolling several times probably meant you were going way to quick for the conditions.

Also stated, "The Healey's have long believed authorities were to blame for the accident because they failed to adequately warn them the road was dangerous."

FUCK!

Before and after those fires there are signs on the Norseman end of the track advising the road is pretty bloody awful. By memory the signs say something like, "Recommended 4 Wheel drive." also says something about not recommended to be used by trucks and to take extreme caution if wet.

Do these people need the "authorities" to stop them at their gate on a wet morning to advise them it is a wet day, "So take special care out there people!"

The track is 160 -180kms of dirt. It is crap. It starts off crap and ends crap. There are wash outs and they vary each time you travel it. There are very few signs to warn of flood ways etc. There are one or two round yellow disks with a black "X" on them to warn of a cross road ahead. Most people don't even know what they are. Neither road has a "giveway" or stop sign in either direction.

These kinds of roads/tracks need just a tad more concentration and thought to drive on. Yep! I know, that ain't never gunna happen.

But, the bottom line this couple thinks you and I are responsible because she drives like a cunt. CRAP! Ain't that unusual.

[quattro750]

I feel your pain GM. It's about time people took responsibility for their own choices and actions/inactions. They look for Blame, live in Denial and find Excuses rather than taking Ownership, Acceptance and Responsibility.

The court hearing should take place in a same model vehicle whilst driving along the track in a manner suited to the conditions and vehicle and if they all arrive safely at the other end then they lose.

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[ChrisJH]

I read this today... Makes me sick. People looking to blame anything but themselves. No one deserves what happened but I agree with everything you said.


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[filbert]

we have a nanny state because we want it

when we expect someone else to foot the bill for our mistakes be it insurance companies or government, they will take action and alter rules, laws and regulations to protect themselves from loss because they don't want to take the blame either.

[emrys74]

It is a shame that some one was killed even more so that it was a child.

but before long it will be off limits i used to use the road when driving in and out of lake Johnson its pretty average but far from bad.

drive and ride to your ability and the prevailing conditions.

[Scott52]

I have driven that road several times over the years and never had an issue with it.

The poor lady is trying to deflect the blame. To accept that she's made a mistake (we're assuming this at the moment) that resulted in her daughters death would be the most painful and horrible thing to do as a parent. I can understand why she is desperately trying to find a different reason other than a driver error. The husband would also have trouble accepting that his wife probably made a mistake that resulted in his daughters death. Parents grieving a lost child can sometimes be irrational in their search for a reason. Don't be too hard on her.

The Coroner will get to the bottom of it. Let's see what he comes up with.

[agrid]

I think the husband should sue is wife for being a poor driver and killing his daughter.

[Noctis]

I think the lawyers defending the state will have a ball with this one.

[HotelBushranger]

Why does there have to be suing?! Let's not turn out like America where every disagreement ends up in a court case.

[Fozzy]

Surely the coroner has already looked at the death if it was 3 years ago??

EDIT: just read the article.. Would be interesting to see what the coroner has to say at the review. Personally I would be waiting the result of that before I commenced legal action.

[quattro750]

I have driven that road several times over the years and never had an issue with it.

The poor lady is trying to deflect the blame. To accept that she's made a mistake (we're assuming this at the moment) that resulted in her daughters death would be the most painful and horrible thing to do as a parent. I can understand why she is desperately trying to find a different reason other than a driver error. The husband would also have trouble accepting that his wife probably made a mistake that resulted in his daughters death. Parents grieving a lost child can sometimes be irrational in their search for a reason. Don't be too hard on her.

The Coroner will get to the bottom of it. Let's see what he comes up with.

I can't but begin to understand the loss of a child and I hope I never have to. The coroner's inquest is the right avenue, this is where it should start and finish. I just struggle with the concept of something goes wrong then let's sue someone......hello USA
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[Scott52]

Surely the coroner has already looked at the death if it was 3 years ago??

EDIT: just read the article.. Would be interesting to see what the coroner has to say at the review. Personally I would be waiting the result of that before I commenced legal action.

Nope ... it usually takes many years before an inquest starts. If it's something really big and tragic they'll pull the inquest forward ... like the Christmas Island boat tragedy. They started the inquest very quickly on that one.

[Falcore]

Done that road an others in the area on two wheels. They aren't that bad personally. People just need to give gravel the respect it deserves.

Btw a zx12 did it ok

[shan]

That track is in much better condition than the Gun Barrel highway. At least it was when I used to frequent them.
I would call that track a rd actully.

[Mo-Fo]

Reminds me of the yank idiots that sue'd McDonalds because they ate it every day at almost every meal and got fat. Then blamed it on McDonalds.

[buelllord]

Why does there have to be suing?! Let's not turn out like America where every disagreement ends up in a court case.

Sydney is already the litigation capital of the world ...



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[tonka128]

Sydney is already the litigation capital of the world ...



buelllord

That doesn't surprise me.. I cant find the reference right now, but 4 or 5 years ago 3 states of aus were in the top 10 worldwide... (and they were towards the top, positions 3,4 and 7 by memory)

as we seem to take yank ideas and try to outdo them at their own game... go NSW

What i like about the 2 wheel community is there is a general theme of take responsibility for your actions (you sorta have to if you want to survive on 2 wheels.)

This whole blame it on someone/something else thing is one of my pet peeves....

[Scott52]

I can't but begin to understand the loss of a child and I hope I never have to. The coroner's inquest is the right avenue, this is where it should start and finish. I just struggle with the concept of something goes wrong then let's sue someone......hello USA
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I too struggle with the concept of people not taking responsibility for their actions. We're going down the USA path for sure. Life is a constant exercise in risk management. Driving unsealed roads in remote areas is a risk and should be managed properly. The lady could have taken the long route using sealed roads via Esperance. They chose the shorter more risky alternative.

[Vikka]

Great. Some moron that can't take responsibility for their own actions will get even more 4wd tracks/places shut down for the ones of us who love getting out there and exploring. Well done to them.