The direction of this thread has to be worrying for the OP and other young people.
Old blokes discussing whether their dreams consisting of rooting one of these:
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or drinking one of these.
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So, obviously, enjoy life while you still you can.
Career is a concept that I was very late in contemplating compared to my peers. Everyone seemed to know what they wanted aimed for and achieved to varying degrees of success.
Not me I've always taken the path of least resistance. The box I ticked on the uni app was a profession that a character in a book I was enjoying at the time. If something is put in front of me I will do it as best I can cos failure sucks.
I was lucky in a sense because I've never actually applied for any job and ended up with a career despite myself not long after I realised that there was a good chance my shortsightedness and hedonism had fucked me. But it means nothing to me its just that I can not feel ashamed about completely wasting my life.
Anyway its good to have a career or at least to be conmtemplating the concept and what it means to you. I don't think about what ifs there is only one life the one you have lived. I think it matters less what you do and more that you aren't a piece of shit. Give more than you take. Hold your head up no matter what company you find yourself in.
Originally Posted by Bendito
To be fair though, you are one of those exceptionally smart people though. A career and success was almost inevitable.
I've had issues, made mistakes and followed the wrong path.
Often.
I wouldn't want to be anyone but me.
Yer I'm an older dude (than the average PSBer).
Once my little family is old enough to poop on toilets we're seriously considering doing it again.... Never felt more alive...... Perth life feels like a relentless rat race.
Its all good.
And there is the answer to the universe ... you win!
i have asked myself that very question.....
at times the answer was difficult to nail down, we all have our bad days when the grass looks green over yonder.....
these days i wouldn't be anyone else, i get the most satisfaction from carrying on as if nothing ever happened
would be nice to own 3 houses rather than pay for the same one 3 times though
chase the dream, really what have you got to lose?
Do you remember the good old days before the internet?
when arguments were only entered into by the physically or intellectually able.
The thing to remember is that the dream is a mirage. When you reach it, almost immediately you look beyond to a new dream. Like the disappointment of not reaching the dream, the satisfaction of reaching it is also fleeting.
Your dreams must be different to mine then.
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground...
In his book "The Black Swan - The Impact of the Highly Improbable" Nassim Nicholas Taleb refers to the condition as "future blindness".
This prediction error works as follows. You are about to buy a new car. It is going to change your life, elevate your status, and make your commute a vacation. It is so quiet that you can hardly tell if the engine is on, so you can listen to Rachmaninoff's nocturnes on the highway. This new car will bring you to a permanently elevated plateau of contentment. People will think, Hey, he has a great car, every time they see you. Yet you forget that the last time you bought a car, you also had the same expecta*tions. You do not anticipate that the effect of the new car will eventually wane and that you will revert to the initial condition, as you did last time.
Yep definitely have to agree with that...I remember some of the dreams I had when I was about 20 and I look at some of the dreams i have now at 25, and it makes the dreams I had at 20 look quite easy to achieve. Life is like an RPG game, you will be really happy when you reach level 20 and will stop playing the game...until you find out there is level 21.
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i think you are on the wrong track there agrid... that looks more like those chasing money than a goal/dream.
an accomplishment is far more rewarding than anything purchased.
season 2012 is coming.....
A grammar error there in your sig could be the first goal 96.
well i'll be... have not spotted that one before.
season 2012 is coming.....
Ah well done, fixed.... one step at a time
er ... no.
At the time of this post, I'm half-way through my four year course, at the end of which I will be teaching Science and Maths in a high school. This is quite a change from the last twenty years in the finance/insurance/retail sector. Whenever it throws up a huge workload, I just remind myself that I was often placed under the pump in the corporate world, then main difference now is that the person most benefiting from my efforts now is myself, and not some client who can't read an email, or a colleague who once again drops the ball. That in itself is a huge motivator for me.
The other thing that keeps me going is the science content itself. We've all heard the saying "you learn something new every day" - well I certainly do, and I'm happy to. I also get to be around like-minded people, and can get all enthused about things like the diversity of life around hydrothermal vents, without the other person looking for the nearest exit.
No, it's not all unicorns and rainbows. I also have childcare responsibilities, some of which I have to outsource to fit around my timetable, and my income is sorely missed, to put it very mildly. What would I do differently? I could have planned a bit more beforehand, maybe replaced my old bike and gear and pay down the mortgage a bit to lower repayments - won't have a chance for 2 years now. I could have started uni earlier, but 20-year old Deborah probably wasn't ready to be a teacher.
And I'm loving teaching so far, and it seems to be a good fit for me, and I think it's important work, so there's always that.
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I had a few attempts at university, but never managed to stick anything out. I realised I was there because I thought I should be, not because I wanted to be. I started playing around with computers, which eventually led to a fairly lucrative IT career in my local area as I was the only one around who could talk to people AND fix their shit.
A messy break up with my girlfriend made me think that I didn't even want to be in Perth anymore, so I left the job, packed up my ute, and drive to Sydney to visit my brother. Five years later I came home after following the snow around the world and having the time of my life. I now had a fiancé, a six week old daughter, no useable career, no assets, and no money.
I'm now about to graduate in a career I love, the financial side is coming together slowly, and I don't regret a thing. There are times when I compare myself to those who went straight out and got a job, and now have a house, cash, toys, etc, but I still wouldn't swap anything. If I hadn't done all the travelling, I would never have been motivated enough to do what I'm doing now, and would probably still be scraping together enough money to last the next few months.
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That is such a simplistic view. An accomplishment could be anything to anyone and not all things can be purchased without a fair bit of accomplishing happening along the way.
I'm pretty sure I've mentioned my journey before. I originally got a BCom from UWA, and became a CPA (I still am). Even though I was very good at organisational review and change (and other accounting/management stuff), I never really liked it. I did a Grad Dip in Computing from Curtin, and really enjoyed studying that, and it opened up a new career in IT - mainly in IS Auditing. That got me thinking that I might enjoy studying my first love, psychology. I started studying that, and really loved it. After the undergrad degree, I started (and finished, last year) a Masters/PhD. I've now made the shift from the cold-pricklies to the warm-fuzzies. It was tough at times, especially on my family, but it was definitely worth it. I dropped a lot of income in the changeover, but even that wasn't too high a price to pay. The question that really made me go for it was asking myself whether I wanted to keep doing what I was doing for another 30 years, or whether I wanted to take 10 years for a change-over, and then do something I love for 20 years. That made it pretty easy for me.
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My life is a kind of a bastard child of dream chasing and doing the right by my overly conservative accountant parents. I'm a royally fucked up kid, 25 now and had problems with depression since I was ~18 so I've never even dreamed of a long term goal apart from 'being happy with ones life as it is, not what it could be'. I still don't see the light at the end of that tunnel...
I got pushed from high school straight into Uni where they put me into the advanced stream in first year engineering with a bunch of pretentious assholes. After spending a year annoying them by doing little to no work and still getting better marks than all of them I decided uni wasn't for me. I didn't drop out until a year later because of the 'rents, after that I went into hospitality to work on my people skills and get out of my shell a bit more. Had the time of my life and never regretted leaving uni in the slightest. Why people pay all that money just to learn to think like someone else is beyond me.
I ended the hospitality career because my dad got me a job working for his IT guy. Have a respectable job he said, work decent hours he said, you like computers so you'll love this job he said.... I left after 3 months of getting blackmailed and having my pay withheld by some pommy asshat. I celebrated by writing my car off into a power pole on new years then spending the next 3 months welding it back together, good times. I still don't regret not junking that car which is now basically a track car, it's taught me way more than any university/appreciship could ever have.
I got pushed into IT again by my parents but I picked my own employer this time. The 4-ish years I've been there I'm still the youngest at the company except I've managed to fork the company in two, own 15% of it, almost tripled my starting wage and have a nice little office and parking space. I'm even getting offered a directorship. Today I managed to sleep in until 11am and no one even noticed, a depressed kids dream job. I get out of the country once or twice a year on holiday, I have enough money to waste on my personal projects and got two of my friends careers in the process (not that they appreciate it since it was handed to them).
Every morning I think of giving it all up to go in search of an actual dream instead of living someone elses. Friends and family keep telling me that I should be happy with my career, disposable income, assets etc but I couldn't give a fuck. Until it feels like I'm not living a lie I'll probably never be happy. The thought of selling everything except my camera to go overseas in search of absolutely nothing is very tempting, it wouldn't take much to make me give it all up.
Maybe I need a 'FWTK: How would you change my life' thread
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