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    BFWTK - why is English so strange?

    Past tense of lead is led, as in "I led a hores to water"
    Past tense of plead is pleaded (google tells me that pled is a word, but has fallen into disuse).
    Why is it so?


    Also, why we're at it. This morning the announcer on the radio said they weren't allowed to use 'fine' to describe the weather any more, why?
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    The Bureau of Meteorology has decided to wipe the word "fine" from the WA weather lexicon, but its rival forecaster insists there never had been such a thing as "fine" weather.
    The Bureau scrapped the word "fine" from its forecasts in WA a week ago after 101 years of usage.
    Weather services manager Andrew Burton said the decision came after the Bureau realised there was confusion among users about what "fine" weather really meant.
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    A survey of 1701 Aussies revealed that only 59 per cent knew it meant no rain, while 45 per cent thought "fine" weather promised sunshine and blue skies, Mr Burton said.
    Competitor weatherzone.com.au's head meteorologist Matthew Pearce said the Bureau's decision "had been a long time coming".
    "It a confusing word. It is subjective; some think it means sunny, some think it is dry," he said.
    Mr Pearce said when weatherzone.com.au was set up in 1998, it had adopted a policy to never use the vague term.
    "We use more descriptive words, which will actually say how the weather is going to be," he said.
    Mr Burton said the first state to live without "fine" weather was Victoria, with WA following suit last week.
    "The feedback (from people in Victoria) was that they weren't missing the word at all," he said.
    He said another reason to scrap "fine" weather from forecasts was that it did not translate into an icon like "sunny" or "cloudy".
    "You can’t draw fine weather; there is no picture for it," he said.


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    I'd say english is strange now because it's been massacred over the years to appease the peasants lolol

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    Because the Normans invaded in 1066.

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    I believe WAPOL have exclusive rights to the use and definition of the word "fine" now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barfridge View Post
    Past tense of lead is led, as in "I led a hores to water"
    Past tense of plead is pleaded (google tells me that pled is a word, but has fallen into disuse).
    Why is it so?


    Also, why we're at it. This morning the announcer on the radio said they weren't allowed to use 'fine' to describe the weather any more, why?
    Firstly, hores lol.

    Secondly, and purely an opinion on the matter. Fine is a measure of quality, one person might think that raining is a desired weather condition therefore he would consider that forecast "fine". Clear is a much more accurate description.
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    What I want to know is why Americans have started to omit the t from words like 'internet' and 'Antarctica'.

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    Because basically if you compared it to genetics, English is the inbred, bastardised, mutated and brutalised offspring from a dozen other languages.



    Oh and I'm fine with fine, clear is fine too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teej View Post
    What I want to know is why Americans have started to omit the t from words like 'internet' and 'Antarctica'.
    Cockneys started that.

    Internet : "In' Er' Neh'"
    Bottle : "Bo' Uwh"
    Harbour : "ArbA!"
    Thing : "Fin'"

    Antarctica : "... An' Ar' I' A"

    etc

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    Barfy, check out a book called The Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson. All your questions will be answered and you will be even more confused than ever.
    The Mother Tongue (book) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Amazon.com: The Mother Tongue (9780380715435): Bill Bryson: Books

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    Bill Bryson - The Mother Tongue: English and How It Got That Way
    This is a very good audio book by Bill Bryson about how the English language started and where it's headed.
    I'm not sure if you can download it here but I'm sure you can find it out there.

    Who would have thought that a book about English would be so entertaining? Bill Bryson--a zealot--is the right man for the job. It is his unflagging enthusiasm, seeping from between every sentence, that carries the book.
    Bryson displays an encyclopedic knowledge of his topic, and this inevitably encourages a light tone; the more you know about a subject, the more absurd it becomes. No jokes are necessary, the facts do well enough by themselves, and Bryson supplies tens per page. Not only does this give a laugh (one word: Welsh), and always shed considerable light, it also makes the reader feel fortunate to speak English.
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    HAHA beaten to it
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    #4: Pillion gets treated like they are made of glass and irreplaceable - I don't want that shit on my hands if I make a mistake doing something silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barfridge View Post
    This morning the announcer on the radio said they weren't allowed to use 'fine' to describe the weather any more, why?
    "Fine" is also reserved for women when they're miffed about something, ie "I'm fine".

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    Thats nothing Barfy...

    There and Their are spelt differently but pronounced the same...

    Wind and wind are spelt the same but pronounced differently...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road Conditioner View Post
    Cockneys started that.

    Internet : "In' Er' Neh'"
    Bottle : "Bo' Uwh"
    Harbour : "ArbA!"
    Thing : "Fin'"

    Antarctica : "... An' Ar' I' A"

    etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veefore View Post
    Barfy, check out a book called The Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson. All your questions will be answered and you will be even more confused than ever.
    The Mother Tongue (book) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Amazon.com: The Mother Tongue (9780380715435): Bill Bryson: Books
    speaking of the crazy English language - why is it "tongue" not "tung"?

    stupid language.

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    Sorry, I got ditracted when my phone rongue.

    In other news, Ghot is pronounced the same as 'fish'

    Gh from cough (co'f')
    O from women (w'i'men)
    T from words such as nation (nay'sh'ion)
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    Quote Originally Posted by shmoo View Post
    speaking of the crazy English language - why is it "tongue" not "tung"?
    In Middle English o was substituted for u before m or n so as to avoid misreading the letters.

    The -ue was an attempt to indicate proper pronunciation (compare lingua).

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    and then there's the words ending in ough
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    and containing ough.

    innit brougham.

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