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    DWTK: Port Arthur

    Its been 15 years since this incident and I for one believe he didnt do it and it was a ploy (disgustingly) to get weapons restrictions in Australia.



    Here are some comments from teh webs:

    * A New South Wales police report indicates that 29 shots were fired at the Broad Arrow, 19 ending as fatal head shots, 1 other fatal shot, and 12 wounded. In about 90 seconds. A very interesting statistic.
    * Bryant's AR-15 was found with an exploded cartridge in the chamber, exploded with a force not normally seen for a bullet of this calibre. If this had occurred while the weapon was being held, severe injury would have resulted to the operator -- amputation, burns, or firearms discharge residue. At time of arrest, Bryant was burned from the fire at Seascape Cottage, but his hands were uninjured.
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    There were 5 people involved in it. Alongside Martin were 2 other men and 2 women, that assisted to make sure that the massacre took place. Martin Bryant was not the shooter, nor did he plan the attack - he was the guy who took the fall for them.

    This was a part of a much bigger exercise that involved the deaths of over 100 people over a 1-year period, and had 20 people involved. It was planned from years beforehand and police were well and truly aware of it. There is a bulk of evidence that police and law enforcement bodies are already aware of.

    It's not a conspiracy. Saying that Martin Bryant did it himself is a conspiracy. That's just stupid. Nobody, not even a professional sniper, could do it themselves. I am sure that you can figure that one out. And it certainly wasn't a random shooting.

    If I name who the people were that were assassinated and why they were, perhaps that will shed some light on things. The targets all had something in common, but Martin Bryant isn't the link.

    You can call this a serial killing or terrorism. Its up to you. But it was a planned thing

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    “We are going to see a mass shooting in Tasmania...unless we get national gun control laws.”
    -- Roland Brown, Chairman of the Coalition for Gun Control, uttered on "A Current Affair with Ray Martin", March 1996

    At 1.30 p.m. on Sunday 28 April 1996, an unknown professional combat shooter opened fire in the Broad Arrow Cafe at Port Arthur in Tasmania, Australia. In less than a minute 20 people lay dead, 19 of them killed with single high-velocity shots to the head fired from the right hip of the fast-moving shooter.

    In less than thirty minutes at six separate crime scenes, 35 people were shot dead, another 22 wounded, and two cars stopped with a total of only 64 bullets. A moving Daihatsu 4WD driven by Linda White was crippled by a “Beirut Triple”, normally reserved for dead-blocking Islamic terrorists driving primed car bombs around the Lebanon.

    One sighting shot, a second to disable the driver, and a third to stop the engine before the primed car bomb can hit its target and explode. Very few people know of this technique, and only a handful of experts can master it with only three bullets.

    This awesome display of combat marksmanship was blamed on an intellectually impaired young man called Martin Bryant, who had no shooting or military experience at all. As the book "Deadly Deception at Port Arthur" proves in absolute scientific terms, Bryant killed no-one at Port Arthur.
    Joe Vialls. See footnote at the end of this article.

    On Sunday afternoon, April 28, 1996 “lone nut assassin” Martin Bryant opened fire on tourists at the Broad Arrow Cafe in Port Arthur, Tasmania. Before Bryant left the Broad Arrow ninety seconds later, 20 people lay dead and 13 others lay injured. Nineteen of the twenty deaths were the result of a gunshot wound to the head. By the time Bryant was finally apprehended, the body count was 35 dead, and 18 seriously wounded.

    Twelve days after Bryant's shooting spree, massive new restrictions were imposed on the civilian possession and use of firearms - restrictions specifically designed to reduce the number of lawfully owned guns in the hands of Australians. It was a scenario all too familiar to American gun-owners. A high-profile shooting occurs and new laws are demanded - laws designed to render civilian firearm possession all the more difficult.

    With Port Arthur, however, many Australians believe that the firearm-prohibitionists weren't willing to leave anything to chance. Fuelling the fires of suspicion, major discrepancies in the official accounts of what transpired at Port Arthur surfaced in the years that followed and charges of cover-up and conspiracy were levelled against the Australian government. Even if the exact details may never be known with certainty, some light may be shed on the answers by examining the question of whether Martin Bryant was capable of acting alone.

    Twenty eight year old Martin Bryant had an IQ of 66 and was considered incompetent by the state at the time of the shootings. In February 1984, a psychiatric assessment was undertaken for the purpose of determining Bryant's eligibility for a Dept. of Social Security Invalid pension. It was granted because of Bryant's mental deficiencies, that he been unable to hold a job and was incapable of managing his own affairs. In addition to his pension, he had been left a legacy of over one million dollars.

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    We already did: Port arthur discussion

    Matter of fact, Dubs ... you were there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
    We already did: Port arthur discussion

    Matter of fact, Dubs ... you were there!
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    There is a Tassie lady here at work and I mentioned it to her and she swore at me and had a go at me, So I said "COME AT ME BRO" and I thought it was a good conversation to have.
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    Read all of Joe Vialls book. He is a little bit mental to say the least, and dead. He has made some mental claims over the years. Bryant did it, not particularly great shots, most people panicked and didn't want to make a dash in the broad open areas, he cornered plenty in the cafe and just slotted them. He did it all, no secret training camp for special forces or a conspired effort to ban automatic firearms, although it certainly helped secure that. Tell the Tasmanian the joke:

    What have Port Arthur and the Antarctic got in common?

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    Did you know there were explosions seen at the base of the towers before they fell?

    I don't buy it. Nutjobs will always come up with another theory... Do the people making those comments have any cred? (i.e. Ballistics experts etc.)

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    I have spoken to a surviver from the coffee shop
    Bryant did it.
    The look he had said this aint no lie.
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    If norway's gun laws toughen up, someone would make up some fandangle story to blah blah blah liberal government looking to take weapons out of blah.

    I'm open to conspiracy theories, but the bryant one is pretty damn silly.

    Nobody, not even a professional sniper, could do it themselves.
    Anders Breivik did it twice over.

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    I'm happy to question the official version of events if they don't seem to make too much sense and I reckon there's some curious stuff about the official story here.




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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Did you know there were explosions seen at the base of the towers before they fell? ...
    A very good example of the official story not making complete sense - holes big enough you could fly a plane through




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubs View Post

    If I name who the people were that were assassinated and why they were, perhaps that will shed some light on things. The targets all had something in common, but Martin Bryant isn't the link.
    What was the common link?

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    This, he tells me, is the same model that fourteen- year-old Michael Carneal stole from his neighbor's house in Paducah, Kentucky, on December 1, 1997. Carneal took the gun to a high-school prayer meeting and opened fire on the group. "He fired eight shots and got eight hits on eight different kids. He killed three and paralyzed one for life," Grossman notes grimly in his slight Arkansas accent. It was an astonishing piece of marksmanship-a hit ratio that many highly trained police officers can't achieve. Last year, for example, four experienced New York City cops shot at unarmed Amadou Diallo, firing forty-one bullets from barely fifteen feet away; fewer than half hit their mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    Did you know there were explosions seen at the base of the towers before they fell?

    I don't buy it. Nutjobs will always come up with another theory... Do the people making those comments have any cred? (i.e. Ballistics experts etc.)

    Just my 2c, each to their own
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    I love a good conspiracy. They're all a bit loopy, but I still love them.

    Bryant most certainly did this alone, with enough bullets it doesn't take a vast amount of skill to put holes in people.

    I find the Kennedy assassination theories awfully compelling as well. Second gunmen and all that, impossible shot to make, magic bullet, etc..

    A few years back now, Penn & Teller did a show covering the odds of an average marksman making the Kennedy shot. They set the shot up, target in the back of a moving car, same distance as Oswald, same speed, same conditions. They threw 14 (I think) average shooters at it, and all but one made the shot first time. Apparently the guy that missed "Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a shovel".

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    Quote Originally Posted by chew View Post
    This, he tells me, is the same model that fourteen- year-old Michael Carneal stole from his neighbor's house in Paducah, Kentucky, on December 1, 1997. Carneal took the gun to a high-school prayer meeting and opened fire on the group. "He fired eight shots and got eight hits on eight different kids. He killed three and paralyzed one for life," Grossman notes grimly in his slight Arkansas accent. It was an astonishing piece of marksmanship-a hit ratio that many highly trained police officers can't achieve. Last year, for example, four experienced New York City cops shot at unarmed Amadou Diallo, firing forty-one bullets from barely fifteen feet away; fewer than half hit their mark.

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    Dave Grossman is a good read. If you're interested in the science and psychology of killing.
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    What was the common link?
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    New York City cops shot at unarmed Amadou Diallo, firing forty-one bullets from barely fifteen feet away; fewer than half hit their mark.
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    - quotes from dave grossman to come.

    Given the circumstances, many non-sociopathic people will shoot to miss rather than hit, even in a life or death situation

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    Firing rates in combat until WWII used to be as low as 15 to 20% at an enemy, this dropped from higher rate to this when leaders, CO's left the vicinity. Lt. Col. Dave Grossman 'On Killing' pg 144. Got it here, there's other stuff on the actual aim and targetted fire somewhere. Pretty low in general infantry until the advent of desensitising troops though video gameplay and simulation.
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    and if all victims had a link, what was the link to the two little girls he hunted down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphoric View Post
    and if all victims had a link, what was the link to the two little girls he hunted down?
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