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About LinkBacksLets see all the Guzzi owners here eh? Both the older and the superb newer machines, like this Bellagio with Mistral pipes....
Lets see all the Guzzi owners here eh? Both the older and the superb newer machines, like this Bellagio with Mistral pipes....
When the politicians complain that TV turns the proceedings into a circus, it should be made clear that the circus was already there, and that TV has merely demonstrated that not all the performers are well trained. Edward R. Murrow (1908 - 1965)
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Hey Sapper what size Breva ya got?
750, about to get the Bellagio.
When the politicians complain that TV turns the proceedings into a circus, it should be made clear that the circus was already there, and that TV has merely demonstrated that not all the performers are well trained. Edward R. Murrow (1908 - 1965)
Nice, have you tried the 1100 or 1200 Breva yet? Totally different to the 750, which is based on the Nevada.
Tried the 1100, not the 1200. I've ridden the 1200 Sport though. To me the additional torque is not really evident, hence I prefer the additional revability and economy as I'm planning a trip around Oz to collect material for a history of Sappers in Vietnam.
I'm a bit against this ever increasing search for cubes. Bit bloody US of bloody A for me. What about increases in volumetric efficiency?
No, for someone who grew up on Pommie machines in the early 60s all this cubic capacity nonsense in crudely very American. Don't get me wrong, I see nought wrong with the 1200s, just has that edge on torque and bhp that on Australian roads is essentially unusable, nice, but over the top for an old fart.
Cheers in Guzzi...
When the politicians complain that TV turns the proceedings into a circus, it should be made clear that the circus was already there, and that TV has merely demonstrated that not all the performers are well trained. Edward R. Murrow (1908 - 1965)
850 T3 and 1100 Griso, and loving them
Have owned a V50 Monza, MK1, Daytona RS, V10 Centauro, 1000 Quota, NTX 650.
Great bikes, would get another one one day, but the bike I have now is not moving on.
Does anyone know what touring on a (new) Griso would be like? Have tried an 1100 briefly (probably should have stayed out longer than a couple of hours) and wasn't thrilled with either open road or traffic behaviour, but I now dream of getting a 1200, which I gather has a different riding position. But I want to be able to do 5-600 k days without my arms falling off. Does a flyscreen help much, and does the riding position work over a long day? Any opinions?
1100 what? Breva, Sport?
Guzzis take a while to grow on you. You could tour on a Griso but it is a nakid remember. I could recomend the 1100 Breva or the full tourer the Norge. The 1200 Sport would be a capable bike too. Try to ride some more for longer. Its not allways possible I know. Cos what works for me may not work for you. !!
1100 Griso was what I rode. Had 2 hrs in the hills and in heavy traffic, but found getting back on my monster 800 sheer bliss afterwards. Main gripe was the drivetrain lash and jerky change when trundling in slow moving traffic, though I later realised my throttle control had a lot to do with both problems, as I took a while to get used to my SV too.Originally Posted by rossguzzi
I didn't like it at all in traffic, though it sure looked and sounded great.
Out on the road I found it felt strangely gutless. but compared to a lightweight like my Monster, it probably was just a matter of feel rather than reality. I was really unhappy that I didn't really like it, when I wanted very much to do so. Mario was a bit pissed that I didn't stay out longer, to get more of a feel for it.
Have looked at Norge reviews and like the look of the bike in the flesh, but gather it isn't very nice as a commuter, and unfortunately half my everyday riding is in traffic (110k/day). Weekend runs are 4-500 country ks.
My SV does the job well for both, but I just can't love it. It's just a bike, though a surprisingly good one. Guzzis are proper bikes. But I want to do more than look at one.
Nearly went for an 1100 Cafe racer (about 2003 model?) about 6 mths ago, but talked myself out of it, thinking it wasn't going to be very practical. Was waiting on the Stelvio, but recent reviews seem to be a bit negative on its behaviour in traffic again, and I'm not really sure I want an 'adventure' style.
Breva's don't float my boat much stylewise, nor does the sport, or Belagio, though i'm sure they're excellent bikes.
But Griso's look absolutely fabulous in my opinion, and the new one seems to have improved a lot to ride, judging by reviews. That's what I really want to have in the garage, but not until I'm reasonably sure it'll do what I want. It's a lot of loot down the tube if I turn out to be one of those individuals who can't fall in love with actually riding a Guzzi, rather than just the looks.
Was it the 4v Griso you rode? If it was I rode it too, and the fueling was not set up very well. A mate has a 2v Griso and it is smooth as.
I think there is a 2v Griso for sale in the papers that a guy I know is selling. Mabey take a look at that.
Even though I had a 4v Daytona and V10 Centauro 4v, I think the 2v Griso could be better than the 4! But I bet the 4v could be set up better!
It was a 2v. I found the whole shebang very on-off when trying to crawl along in traffic - worse than a very loose chain on a non shaftie - and gear changes were very jerky, which I put down to the gearbox at the time. I'd already talked to Mario about drivetrain lash and fuelling etc causing jerkiness in shaftdrives (I'd previously owned a Yammie 900 Diversion) and he said some people had a bit of trouble with it and that clutchless changes might be better on the Griso. I didn't have any luck with that at all, and have read since that massive flywheel inertia makes it not a very good idea. Anyway, my up changes were shithouse, and downchanges only marginally better.
When I bought my SV recently my up changes were shit, too, and after blaming the gearbox for a few days it dawned on me that I was being too heavy handed getting back on the juice when changing up. Had never had this problem in any other bike. Now I've become a bit more skilled, and I think it's time to go try riding another Griso.
In principal I prefer less complexity - ie 2V vs 4, as was` the case with my choice of Ducati, but I have read that the fuelling is smoother in the new Griso. Only if set up properly, though, I guess.
A second hand low mileage 2V would certainly be a good buy compared to a new 4 at this stage. Didn't see the one you mention in the papers, but I assume you mean Quokka? Will try to find it online.
If you are intrested in a Guzzi there was a Daytona RS for sale in NSW not that long ago for about 16K I can't find the add which probally means it sold but they do come up occasionally. If you want a reasnobly recent Guzzi without going silly with track only specials (cough) the Daytona RS is the one to have only made around 300 of them. Ross can tell you all about owning/riding them they are however a mid 90's bike and the newer ones are better sorted from the factory.
Mine was sweet. Ran faultlessly !
The immediate post carby Guzzis are an argument for making abortion retrospective in my opinion, bloody shitty fuelling, but...
The new generation are very good, the only ones I have not yet ridden are the 1200 Breva and the 4v Griso. And my favourite of them all is the Bellagio, just nice; handling, fuelling, braking, it just is all there, the only pity is that its only, yet in Oz - BLACK!!
Why do so many motorcycle manufacturers hear only Henry Ford "any colour you like as long as its black..." Still, the main offender comes from a nation that could NOT make the valve springs for the Rolls Royce Merlin in WWII for their Mustang aircraft, you point and I'll grin.
Ciao
PS: When was the last time "they" won a GP or the BOT??
When the politicians complain that TV turns the proceedings into a circus, it should be made clear that the circus was already there, and that TV has merely demonstrated that not all the performers are well trained. Edward R. Murrow (1908 - 1965)
You clearly have been talking to Kev too much and have never ridded the carbed 1100 sport that proceded the fuel injection systems on the daytona/1100sport. The delorto's state of tune to get it through the pervailing emissions at the time was somewhere between woeful and unrideable.The immediate post carby Guzzis are an argument for making abortion retrospective in my opinion, bloody shitty fuelling, but...
Ciao
PS: When was the last time "they" won a GP or the BOT??
Its also now cheaper to replace and ECU with an aftermarket ECU than replacing two carbs with better ones.
Done and done it, got my Bellagio!
Just lurve it and the fuelling is G R E A T!
When the politicians complain that TV turns the proceedings into a circus, it should be made clear that the circus was already there, and that TV has merely demonstrated that not all the performers are well trained. Edward R. Murrow (1908 - 1965)
What a beautiful looking ride. Well done Sapper.
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