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Old 21-07-2008, 03:27 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Suzuka 2001, Max Biaggi elbowed Rossi off onto the grass on the start/finish straight.
Rossi later passed Biaggi aggressively under brakes, and pulled the finger at him with 1 knee on the ground, went on to win from McCoy, Biaggi, Abe, Nakano
I recall there's a great video of it on youtube somewhere.

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YouTube - Max Biaggi Vs Valentino Rossi Suzuka 2001

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Old 21-07-2008, 03:40 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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Casey wonts the straights longer so he can pass nicely, through skill he isnt going to beat Rossi
Did you actually watch the race, or did you overhear someone saying that last year? Casey handed out the same 'skill' that Rossi served on him.
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Old 21-07-2008, 03:45 PM   #43 (permalink)
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through skill he isnt going to beat Rossi
I thoroughly wish that I was in the position to question the world champions skill level.
I saw a hard fought race between 2 combatants, I saw "dubious" tactics, and I saw mistakes.
I reckon Casey is more than skilled enough to step up to the plate and hand it back to the pube behaired monkey boy.
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Old 21-07-2008, 03:55 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Did you actually watch the race, or did you overhear someone saying that last year? Casey handed out the same 'skill' that Rossi served on him.
then why was he whinging like you are
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Old 21-07-2008, 03:56 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Because he's a racer, you should know better than anyone that racers enjoy a whinge about everything but their own skill.
What was the point in that post btw?
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Old 21-07-2008, 03:58 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Casey wonts the straights longer so he can pass nicely, through skill he isnt going to beat Rossi


Ahh to only have the one eye, open the other one and watch the racing dude.
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Old 21-07-2008, 03:59 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I thoroughly wish that I was in the position to question the world champions skill level.
I saw a hard fought race between 2 combatants, I saw "dubious" tactics, and I saw mistakes.
I reckon Casey is more than skilled enough to step up to the plate and hand it back to the pube behaired monkey boy.
but he didnt not in this race when straight line speed couldnt be used to overtake , come in spinner
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Old 21-07-2008, 03:59 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Karma is a great thing.
What goes around comes around.
Phuck Rossie!

Go Casey!
yeah man im hearing ya, go stoner
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:01 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:01 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Ahh to only have the one eye, open the other one and watch the racing dude.
some truth to that
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:02 PM   #51 (permalink)
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but he didnt not in this race when straight line speed couldnt be used to overtake , come in spinner
Please, try and make more sense.
I saw 2 blokes, damn close, waaaay ahead of the rest of the pack, and a slip in the sand that blew that lead.
Yeah, he's a really unskilled rider.
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:06 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Please, try and make more sense.
I saw 2 blokes, damn close, waaaay ahead of the rest of the pack, and a slip in the sand that blew that lead.
Yeah, he's a really unskilled rider.
show me there i said Stoner is unskilled
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:07 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:16 PM   #54 (permalink)
 
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Yeah, he's a really unskilled rider.
I thought his final drop was painful to watch.

Awesome racing tho!
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:19 PM   #55 (permalink)
 
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you spinner couger you have to much time on yer hands .
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:28 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I thought his final drop was painful to watch.

Awesome racing tho!
i was absoutely loving the race up until that point too!
all i could do was cry into me weetbix when stoner went into the gravel

it was all still worth being late to work for though!
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Old 21-07-2008, 04:56 PM   #57 (permalink)
 
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The MotoGP commentators also disagree with your perception of Stoner out braking himself at the final turn, they even asked him that very question at the end of the race. Stoner's answer suggested he thought the same thing. I saw it as brake checking, the commentators saw it as brake checking, Stoner saw it as brake checking.
I saw it as a brake check. Also I think on most other circuits Casey would have won by a mile.
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Old 21-07-2008, 05:04 PM   #58 (permalink)
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ok everyones talking bout brake checks, can someone enlighten me on what that means?
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Old 21-07-2008, 05:14 PM   #59 (permalink)
 
if the shoe was on the other foot and stoner had pulled kamakazis like rossi did he would have been spitting chips....dirty riding from rossi. The way i see it rossi pulle some dodgy moves and i reckon casey leaned on him in that corner for payback.
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Old 21-07-2008, 05:44 PM   #60 (permalink)
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ok everyones talking bout brake checks, can someone enlighten me on what that means?

Getting on the brakes early to force the guy behind to brake to avoid a collision, and then getting immediately back off them so that he loses ground.


As to rossi vs stoner and crashing... rossi has had a bad run as of late.

However if you look at his results since he found his feet in motogp, he's been a fairly reliable finisher...

If you're pushing the limits of what the bike can do, its inevitable that you're going to go down occasionally (when the guy goes that little bit *too* far). No one wants to go down i'm sure (edit: except maybe de puniet).

If you're not pushing that hard, someone else will be and you'll get passed....
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