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    Any one done Cali Superbike school before?

    Looking at going east any comments info would be appriciated.

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    PM Robwas. He went this year.
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    Funny, I was just looking at this a coupla hours ago.

    They run them at PI & EC. Around the $450 per day mark & each level takes a day (4 levels). Each circuit has two consecutive days with the track so you could do the 4 levels in 2 vists of 2 days each. Bike hire around $300, plus flights & hotels.

    I'd say up to $2k for the gig depending on the # of days.
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    I've only done Level 1, and this was about 3 years ago

    Format is very similar to Trakdayz, ie you start with a classroom session, talk about theory, and then your go out and practice it. From memory they cover things like hitting apexes, looking up/through corners, faster turn in etc.

    Pros -
    The classes are small, from what i remember it was like 5 people, so you really get good one on one tuition. It's well structured, methodical, gets your basics right, gives you the chance to learn the basics in a structured way

    Cons
    It's a little pricy, considering most of the stuff you learn is in the Twist of the Wrist 1 & 2 books.

    My 2cents

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    Running couple days at PI after the WSBK's was thinking of taking my bike, gotta work out the $$$ side of things before getting too carried away.

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    From what Robwas told me, it sounded a little disappointing given the amount for cash you lay out. Thinks like now power for tyre warmers.
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    I took my bike this year after the GP and did level 1.
    It was good and the tuition was great, 1 instructer for 3 people. I didn't learn anything new but learnt a bit about how to apply what I new a bit better. I think level 2,3&4 close together would bring it all together.
    Was a bit dissapointed that there were no pit bays available and could not use tyre warmers which cost me a set of tyres for the day also.
    Its a busy day and there is plenty of track time along with class room sessions after each session with only a lunch break.
    PM if you would like more detail.

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    I've done one too at Eastern Creek and while it was professionally run there wasn't as much personal coaching as I thought there would be so I don't think I learned as much as I thought I would. Agree with Jaseyjase - they pretty much stuck to the Twist of the Wrist script. Keith Code himself was there though which was cool. they had a 'no bullshit' bike set up to reinforce how countersteering works. It was a bike with an extra set of handlebars higher than the ordinary ones. The extra bars have a throttle and brake but they're fixed rigidly to the frame and will not turn. We all had a go on it and tried to make the bike corner with just body movement while keeping speed up with hands on the higher rigid bars. (Impossible).
    If I wanted to do it again, I'd spend the big bucks and arrange 1 on 1 tuition from one of the superbike riders which you can do over east. I'm nowhere near good enough to really benefit from that though so I just went back to doing ordinary track days and trying to follow/copy better riders than myself. cheers

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    Intresting its just a couple of days line up nicely with after the WSBK round at PI still working on the finacials at the moment anyway.

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    Did level 1 & 2 in November. Was a really good experience for me. Instructor/Student ratio on track 1 to 3. Doing level 3 & 4 back to back mid January. Steve Brouggy's class room instructional technique some of the best I have experienced in any professional forum in or out of motorcycling. Hire GSXR 600's well set up & helped me decide to buy same type of bike for the track.
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    I'd consider hiring but I really want to run my bike its special (well I think so anyway) its also the compete opposite of a GSXR 600 high reving inline four with relativly small capacity vs 1200cc plus aircooled twin. No pit facilities though is a bit of a bummer looks like I'll have to stump up for some treaded tyres. Should catch up with you one day and I'll ask lots more stupid questions.

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    I would definitely want to run an MGS on PI as well Murray. I am sure if you did the School as possibly opposed to a Ride day and asked them before booking, they would give access to power etc.

    On the other hand I can check it out for you when I am there in January as the staff who organize the hire bikes were very friendly & helpful?
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    I know one of the new Instructors for the Cali Superbike school, Il give him a call and find out some more info for you if you would like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartfield View Post
    I know one of the new Instructors for the Cali Superbike school, Il give him a call and find out some more info for you if you would like?
    I would like if its not too much drama cheers!

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    Hi Nero

    I did Level 1 & 2 at Mondello in Ireland in 2006 again it was on two consecutive days. I found the instruction fantastic. We had a 2 to 1 ratio (Two students to 1 instructor).

    Andy Ibbott (Coached Thomas Luti to 250cc Moto GP Championship) was our classroom instructor and was very clear and concise in what was expected in ever session. They even gave us A4 paper with questions on it so after every session we wrote down what difference the session made to your riding and confidence.

    Level One is the basics with 5 sessions. Looking for braking points, turn in point and apex. Throttle control through the corner and a small bit on body position (Depending on your track side instructor)

    Level Two progresses on from Level One with what’s known as joining the dots…….Braking Point - Turn In Point - Apex - Exit Point. During this they also include Vision through the corner (Look where you want to go) and Picking the Bike up on the exit of the corner for a quicker power delivery.

    As with all organised track day sessions they start off slow (4th Gear NO Brakes etc) and gradually get faster and faster until the end of the day.
    Level Three and Four really get into the gritty of racing and a lot more detail in racing lines and Body Positioning etc

    Hope this helps
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    I just spoke to my mate who is an instructor with the school. They do have power on site, but they will not let you use tyre warmers, so the treaded tyre option sounds like the go. If you want any more info let me know and il find out for you.

    When are you looking at going ova?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartfield View Post
    I just spoke to my mate who is an instructor with the school. They do have power on site, but they will not let you use tyre warmers, so the treaded tyre option sounds like the go. If you want any more info let me know and il find out for you.

    When are you looking at going ova?
    Probably straight after the WSBK if at all gotta get the dollars to line up first cheers for the info. Now what treaded tyres do I go for suppose I should hedge my bets and some that will work in the rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero Diablo View Post
    Probably straight after the WSBK if at all gotta get the dollars to line up first cheers for the info. Now what treaded tyres do I go for suppose I should hedge my bets and some that will work in the rain.
    Would be a good idea to plan for wet weather. Pilot 2CT's work pretty well.
    PM me for a great deal on transporting you and your bike over. (my van is for sale)

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    Yeah cheers I have fancy smancy enclosed trailer so no need for a van, I also have a pathological hatred of Michlen road tyres the slicks that came on my bike are the first Michlens I have thought were any good and now you can't get them.

    I was thinking BT012SS but these might not be avaliable in Australia Pirreli's Diablo's looked intresting (not to be confused with Diablo corsa's) or Maybe a set of Avons which I have had before they are not always the last word in grip but they always have plenty of feedback predictable let go should you get close to it and awesome wet performance. I still need to work out if I'll have enough money to go yet.

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