Front brake fade fix

[Spoon]

Have been doing a few track days on the 06 GSXR 1000 and found once the pace went up a bit the front brakes faded out. Installed braided lines and new Castrol fluid, better feel but still faded. Installed HH sintered pads and Motil 5.1, this takes a longer to fade but continues to do so during the day and doesn't come back so good between sessions like the standard pads and Castrol fluid.
Any pointers or advice on what I should look at for fixing/ helping this?

[Flyboy]

What discs are you using?

[hammerhead]

I had same problem so bought a brembo front master cylinder and problem is gone and I'm going even quicker

[smeghead]

^^ ditto, 19RCS for me Could also try a newer model GSXR m/c from ebay if they're available & cheap enough

[hammerhead]

I bought the the one that does both 18x19 and 20x19 works a fkn treat mates have done the whole buy newer model M/C before and then work out that the problem is still there even after spending on the updated one better off just spending on the brembo that way you know it will be improved

[Spoon]

Everything else apart from the lines, pads and fluid is standard inc the discs. I have heard about running the brembo master cylinder but thought the fade would come from the lower end of the setup, pads, calipers etc? If the master cylinder is tried and tested to fix it, that's good enough for me. I'll have a hunt around for places to buy, if you've gone through the exercise would appreciate some direction. Whats the differant numbers, is it the ratio between pull and force?

[chitto.1]

Ran the standard M/C on my 07 CBR for 2 years and spent shitloads on everything except replacing the M/C with no sign of fixing the brake fade and spongy lever.
On the 09 I put the Brembo 19RCS straight up and would not have anything else now.
I rode my old bike a while back and nearly ran of twice in 1 lap due to the spongy brake lever.
Brembo's are worth the extra cash. My opinion only though.

Everything else apart from the lines, pads and fluid is standard inc the discs. I have heard about running the brembo master cylinder but thought the fade would come from the lower end of the setup, pads, calipers etc? If the master cylinder is tried and tested to fix it, that's good enough for me. I'll have a hunt around for places to buy, if you've gone through the exercise would appreciate some direction. Whats the differant numbers, is it the ratio between pull and force?

[Shaunor8]

My k9 gixxer 750 had the worst brakes ever! I would start a session on one finger and end up pulling the lver to the bar with four. Bought a brembo master cylinder, cost about $380 from superbiketoystore.com. Totally transformed the bike and I was doing stoppies into turn seven with one finger ( pretty fucking ugly ones mind you )
Didn't even have braided lines. Best mod I ever made.

[chitto.1]

I think weve plugged Brembo enough.......

[Spoon]

I think weve plugged Brembo enough.......

If it's good enough for Chitto, it's dam perfect for me

[hammerhead]

Think the main action (I could be wrong) but it releases pressure on the pads faster resulting in less heat and gives better braking and has worked for me

I got mine from either sportsbike track gear or moto mummy

[Shaunor8]

Think the main action (I could be wrong) but it releases pressure on the pads faster resulting in less heat and gives better braking and has worked for me

I got mine from either sportsbike track gear or moto mummy

Your a little off the mark there Hammer. The Brembo master cyl. ( depending on which one you get ) has a larger piston which forces more pressure to the brake calipers and pads with less effort from the lever, resulting in better braking efficiency.

[hammerhead]

Yeah but the big problem is heat in the pads that makes them squishy not just the amount of force needed to press against the disc