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just been playing with my tyre warmers, and was wondering what temperature most people run them at?
"I think she's kinda sweet...but she makes her living catching cum in her mouth and i'm sensing that's a problem with you"
DIABLO SUPERCORSA SC , Motorcycle Tyres - PIRELLI INTERNATIONAL
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Originally Posted by Bendito
cheers gozer. do a bit of stalking did you? or just remember that i had supercorsas on the trackbitch?
"I think she's kinda sweet...but she makes her living catching cum in her mouth and i'm sensing that's a problem with you"
nope supercorsas is just a common tyre which i like as well
also they are well supported with regards to setting them up refer to Welcome to the DiabloRacer.com Forum
nah
I see stalker...it's ok though...
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From what I was told by a company that manufactures tyre warmers in the UK, slicks operate the best when warmed to 80 degrees (I guess dot approved race tyres are the same) and road tyres operate at a lower temperature, around 50 degrees but depends on the tyre. So if you use normal tyre warmers on road tyres for too long you can end up overheating them.
the kaneg warmers came preset to 50. but then. supercorsas would be DOt approved race tyres, wouldnt they?
"I think she's kinda sweet...but she makes her living catching cum in her mouth and i'm sensing that's a problem with you"
There are two types of Supercorsa, SC and SP. SC is the race compound, SP is the street compound. SC recommends 70-80 degrees according to the Pirelli site, while SP gives no tyre warmer info.
I also remember finding a FAQ when I was looking for tyres where Pirelli was asked about the supercorsas and they recommended not leaving the warmers on them for too long because it does more damage to the tyre keeping them warm for extended periods of time than it does heat cycling them.
Wow I was going to use warmer on power one's on the 23rd, tire warmers are not adjustable so would you sugest just putting then on for 10 min befor going out?
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I wouldn't bother with warmers for road rubber... by 1/2 lap road rubber is pretty much ready to go.
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75*c was the ducks nuts temp when I last used tyre warmers.
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in g4 I don't want any doubt in my mind even for 1/2 a lap, first time into basin " do I have full grip" going through my head not good.
Besides after 1/2 a lap you guys on slicks will be so far gone I wont see you.
Yes, but there still is no point of warmers on road rubber... you will cook them and they will be destroyed before you even get on the track.
The universe likes speed. Don't delay. Don't second guess. Don't doubt. When the opportunity is there, when the impulse is there, when the intuitive nudge from within is there, act.
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^^^ WHS
unless your running slicks or racing and NEED to hit turn one at race pace you seriously need not bother with warmers just because your in GP 4 doesnt mean you have to go hard from the start like you said all the race guys will either be long gone OR they will just be warming up same as you rabbit
I used warmers on my roadies.. 016 front and road three rear lol the front was under warmers at 50° and the rear at 40° was mint but th rear was sliding under power so no good for track.
When you take last Sunday's round 2 into account, turns out no one had warmers for the first hour or so due to a power outage. Everyone was on race rubber and the track was the coldest it has been for a long time, and we had no off's in practice, draw you own conclusions from that.
The universe likes speed. Don't delay. Don't second guess. Don't doubt. When the opportunity is there, when the impulse is there, when the intuitive nudge from within is there, act.
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^^ sensible and capable riders comes to mind. Is there an argument for warmers to prevent heat cycling during the day.
Yes there is. You'll also find that a warmer at 80 degrees is still a little less than operating temp for race tyres under load.
Good riders!!
Yes there is the matter of heat cycling... But road rubber no matter of how high spec or sporty it may be, it is still road rubber and is designed to to be ridden out of your garage at any time of the year, wet or dry in the middle of a winter or the heat of summer for a huge range of bikes and also for a huge range of rider skill, again and again and again. You have a set of tyres and lets say over 6 months you get 4-5000km out of the rear, in those 4000km of road riding consider how many times they they got hot and cold and they still work, even beyond the wear indicators. Performance loss is there but as they wear you get used to it as it is so gradual. It's not until you go get a new set that you realise how nice set is, and even that is not so much due to the compound being damaged from heat rather than the front becoming pointier and the rear being squared off. You'll find that the atmosphere attacking the compound over those six months is doing more damage than the heat you are adding and taking.
What opened my eyes was my pace last Sunday. Round 1 I had a new front(SC1) and rear(SC2) Pirelli fitted, Round 1 the conditions of the track/weather were better. I managed a high 62second lap (just the 1). Between Round 1 and Round 2, I did two Trakdayz and a Ridedays, on the same rubber, flipping the rear into reverse to even up the wear and then used it for morning practice. Round 2 I had a new rear for the races and my bike bike prep consisted of cleaning the dead bugs off the front of the bike the night before. I managed a whole race at a new PB, smashed it by .8 of a second. That front had been through plenty of heat cycles, and I'll still be using it for Ridedays and Trackdays until the next race round (though I think I could easily do another round).
You'll find you will run out of rubber and be on the canvas before heat cycles will give you a genuine drop in performance, unless you're maybe an A-Grader or competing nationally or internationally.
The universe likes speed. Don't delay. Don't second guess. Don't doubt. When the opportunity is there, when the impulse is there, when the intuitive nudge from within is there, act.
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