Ask an instructor thread

[Rorschach]

Yes it does just add another class to your existing license.

For lessons in that area Silvio is great 0413575352 (tell him Tegan sent you) he does lessons at the willagee licensing centre on the corner of leach and stock road.

Thanks!
I was a bit confused as to whether you were replying to me or not as you'd quoted another post.
I'll message Silvio later on

[n00b_Ryder]

Hi guys, questions about which bike to ride on for lessons/my test.

Going for my R class and I've just sold my little Ninja and I'm picking up my big bike on Tuesday or Wednesday I think.

I had a shocking experience with an instructor and it made me lose a lot of confidence, particularly in my O turns.
Well I've done one lesson with Mark from Causeway rider training and he was fantastic so I've got a couple more lessons booked with him before my test.

So my dilema is, after feeling a little more confident doing O turns on his bike (though this was some weeks ago as he had a bit of a break over chrissy etc), should I continue on his? OR do I use my bike for lessons, then try and get a shadow every now and then in my own time and go out for some practice, therefore I get a lot more time to practice and become really confident before the test (since I have very little money for more than about 3 lessons).

The only problem with that is I have to organise a shadow, or my partner to ride them bike to Causeway for me each time.

I know switching between bikes is bad. Did that on my RE and then sucked in my last lesson before test day...very scary! lol

So yeah...that was long and rambling...I'm going to shut up and let the advice flow

[vivere]

Hi guys, questions about which bike to ride on for lessons/my test.

Going for my R class and I've just sold my little Ninja and I'm picking up my big bike on Tuesday or Wednesday I think.

I had a shocking experience with an instructor and it made me lose a lot of confidence, particularly in my O turns.
Well I've done one lesson with Mark from Causeway rider training and he was fantastic so I've got a couple more lessons booked with him before my test.

So my dilema is, after feeling a little more confident doing O turns on his bike (though this was some weeks ago as he had a bit of a break over chrissy etc), should I continue on his? OR do I use my bike for lessons, then try and get a shadow every now and then in my own time and go out for some practice, therefore I get a lot more time to practice and become really confident before the test (since I have very little money for more than about 3 lessons).

The only problem with that is I have to organise a shadow, or my partner to ride them bike to Causeway for me each time.

I know switching between bikes is bad. Did that on my RE and then sucked in my last lesson before test day...very scary! lol

So yeah...that was long and rambling...I'm going to shut up and let the advice flow

Depends on what sort of bike you have bought?

If it's a full on sports (of course) it will probably not have such a cood turning cirlce and will not be as easy to O turn on.

so the answer is both. Get as much practice as you can on your bike, have a couple of lessons and sit the test on his which will more than likely be easer to ride.

[n00b_Ryder]

Ah ok, I would have thought switching between them was bad. Should I just use his for the time being and then ride mine when I get my licence?

It's the Ninja 650R btw Ninja%u002520650R%202010%20island%20blue%5B6%5D.jpg

[n00b_Ryder]

Damn...me again lol.

I've had a look for the answer to this but couldn't find it.

Can you do your test on a bike that has ABS? Isn't it cheating on the E stop a little bit??

[filbert]

Damn...me again lol.

I've had a look for the answer to this but couldn't find it.

Can you do your test on a bike that has ABS? Isn't it cheating on the E stop a little bit??

AFAIK it's fine I've had a couple through on their own bikes with ABS and it wasn't brought up, if anything it will increase your stopping distance if you set it off and the examiner will hear the chirps, so not really any advantage.

[n00b_Ryder]

thanks I can't really afford many lessons so I'm trying to practice heaps on my bike so I'll be good, but I was still concerned about confusing myself on the two bikes. The instructor's bike needs no clutch at all for the o-turns but mine doesn't like going that slow without a little clutch

[Nelo]

Quick one since its 2012 what has changed about displaying your P plates, considering i've had my car licence for 7years?

Thanks

P plate one is easy, you are only required to display P Plates for your first licence in WA at this stage, however after 2012 you will probably need to display P's and abide to all relevant restrictions but we will see what happens.

As for the Shadow question, this is a bit of a grey area. I personally have not been able to dig up much information in regards to this, the documentation seems to state that you must be with a licensed rider/instructor but doesnt tell how many people an instructor/rider is able to shadow for. The issue with taking multiple learners is that you are responsible for the safety of 2 people and depending on the circumstances can proove to be quite difficult especially in 4pm traffic. I wouldn't reccomend it unless you are 100% comfortable with the skills of both riders.

[SIKPUPY]

Nelo,

Nothing yet. I havent had an update recently with the licence changes for a little while yet.

[Spock]

thanks I can't really afford many lessons so I'm trying to practice heaps on my bike so I'll be good, but I was still concerned about confusing myself on the two bikes. The instructor's bike needs no clutch at all for the o-turns but mine doesn't like going that slow without a little clutch

You should always use the clutch (and rear brake) for O-turns on any bike.

[n00b_Ryder]

my current instructor said not to use it on his bike but just to keep it covered in case i need to bail out. Whereas my bike actually doesn't like that low speed without the clutch

[tim the pool man]

Very unusual in my experience to not use the clutch for O turns. You want a few more revs and slip the clutch, makes it a lot easier

[j-mac]

Trying to convince my lady to have a shot at getting her license, how long does the RE learners permit last?

[mekon]

What do I do if an instructor yells at me and makes me cry yours, Bubbles

[filbert]

Trying to convince my lady to have a shot at getting her license, how long does the RE learners permit last?

12 months and at the end of that 12 months can be renewed at no charge, however it only includes one test so if renewing it after a failed test you must pay the full fee again.

some learners are on 2+ year old permits due to work commitments, lack of interest etc

[tim the pool man]

Hi guys, questions about which bike to ride on for lessons/my test.

Going for my R class and I've just sold my little Ninja and I'm picking up my big bike on Tuesday or Wednesday I think.

I had a shocking experience with an instructor and it made me lose a lot of confidence, particularly in my O turns.
Well I've done one lesson with Mark from Causeway rider training and he was fantastic so I've got a couple more lessons booked with him before my test.

So my dilema is, after feeling a little more confident doing O turns on his bike (though this was some weeks ago as he had a bit of a break over chrissy etc), should I continue on his? OR do I use my bike for lessons, then try and get a shadow every now and then in my own time and go out for some practice, therefore I get a lot more time to practice and become really confident before the test (since I have very little money for more than about 3 lessons).

The only problem with that is I have to organise a shadow, or my partner to ride them bike to Causeway for me each time.

I know switching between bikes is bad. Did that on my RE and then sucked in my last lesson before test day...very scary! lol

So yeah...that was long and rambling...I'm going to shut up and let the advice flow

I did my R lessons and test on my SV. I was riding it a fair bit (with shadows of course, on WSRs etc) and I didn't like the instructor's bike so it made sense to do it on what I was used to.

I was concerned about O's as it's a fairly big heavy bike but on the test the only O's I did was turning to do the E stops and I wasn't thinking about them I just did them.

[Spock]

Very unusual in my experience to not use the clutch for O turns. You want a few more revs and slip the clutch, makes it a lot easier

There is a school of thought amongst some instructors that if a bike is geared low enough, to just instruct the student to use the throttle and lots of rear brake. It is certainly easier (or more correctly, quicker) to teach someone this way than to take the the time to teach proper clutch control. I don't believe it is better however in the long term.

[Captain Starfish]

No, because as soon as you get off that bike and onto another one, you're going to magically megs yourself.

[Rorschach]

12 months and at the end of that 12 months can be renewed at no charge, however it only includes one test so if renewing it after a failed test you must pay the full fee again.

some learners are on 2+ year old permits due to work commitments, lack of interest etc

My RE learners permit lasts for 3 years.

[j-mac]

thats torn it... and of course; the transport website says sweet F all about expiry periods, and I lost the shitty bit of paper that I managed to cart around with me for an entire year!!! choice...