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About LinkBacksGoing by other states and with other things like the dual P plates there will be a phase in period where all those that already have their 250 licence will just continue as normal and the new ones will be LAMSOriginally Posted by Muzzy
Going by other states and with other things like the dual P plates there will be a phase in period where all those that already have their 250 licence will just continue as normal and the new ones will be LAMS
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Noted. We'll check back on that one in three years
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Pretty sure you will be limited to 250 from what I understand, as you received your licence before LAMS came in. No one you can ask either, because tey don't know what they are doing yet and will take a few months to implement, so I'd say carry on regardless.
Big tip though, just get a cheap 250I have seen some top ZZR's without many km's on them for aroun 3.5-4k, plus there's an Across for $2.8k I think.
That doesnt make sense, if you go get your Rs now (if you are eligible too) then you won't be affected and can continue on your merry way.
Going for my Rs in september hopefully system isnt in place... Would hate to not be able to ride my zx6 or have I confused the system?
Because everyone is just speculating on what they think will happen and no one knows. Who said it will affect me at all?
For all we know they may say if you've had you're RE for 4 years then you'll automatically get your R. No point in speculating.
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Big tip though, just get a cheap 250
Hi Crowtribe, left you a message under Stoney's post (:
I get where you are coming from.
I was just pointing out if you were to go and book your R class and do the 20 minute test you could just forget about the whole LAMS thing. Thats what I did a few months ago
I would highly doubt they would let all R-E holders who have had their R-E for more than 4 years upgrade without a test.
There are states where there is an automatic conversion... It's not something that is unheard of
Yes, for those who started on the system.
I wonder what they did during their tranistional period?
They invented restricted after everybody just got a full license directly in one state I know about. So no transitional period. I had max 34 hp (max 0,16kw per kg permissable) for two years and then it just rolled over. If you are over 25 you can go directly full license. No restrictions apart from power either. Passenger, driving when you please even on the restricted.
Explain again making more sense?
In 1885 the first petrol powered motorcycle was build.
Around 1888 Germanyīs first driverīs licences was issued for Carl Benz the inventer of this very motorcycle.
Starting 3rd May 1909 obtaining a driverīs licence meant you could drive all over Germany unlike before where you could only drive around in your village on one licence. Cruising probably became a big problem so they changed that. Maximum speed allowed anywhere was a whopping 15km/h. Having obtained a motorcycle licence in the different localities, covered in any case ANYTHING on 2 wheels (sometimes 3). Something we would consider a "full licence".
Dates are of Wiki and should be close enough for our purposes.
Over the next almost 75 years the out of town speed limit will be first removed completely then 50 years later reintroduced at a more reasonable 100km/h (we are talking 3rd grade back country roads not autobahns), bikes got bigger and faster and a lot of people died being involved in trafic accidents on motorcycles. The process of obtaining and having a drivers licence stayed untouched. One day in 1986 it was introduced (hence no transitional period), that somebody willing to ride a big bike, needs to spend his first 2 years of permit ownership on anything under 27 hp in order not to die so much. After 2 years it automatically rolls over wether you have ridden a bike or not. Still later they changed that to 34hp plus more difficult regulations as the new license is now Europe wide and they are thinking of upping even that.
Donīt know the stats, but people still get hurt with or without 34 hp at the start. It is however a real pain in the bum involving a lot of paperwork and going back and forth first getting a bike, then reducing the power to 34 hp then eventually bringing it back to nominal power. However you can have this GSXR 1000 or Hayabusa right away. Just gotta live with all of 1,5 mm of throttle grip travel and 5mm hole restrictor plates in the intake ports for the meantime. While 27hp was hugely expensive for the insurance (everybody crashed these) 34 hp today isnīt too bad.
Curious fact: When you are 16 to 18 and want a 125cc bike it needs to be restricted to 80km/h by technical means and have max 15hp. An Aprillia RS125 at 30hp again needs a full licence due to the low weight.So after learning on a Hayabusa for 2 years you are finally prepared to get your hands on one of these weapons.
Apols if this has been posted, but I'm a little surprised the SXV550 is Vic LAMS approved and an RS250 isn't.
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A restricted SXV550 will just barely outrun a DRZ 400 can't say the same for an RGV250
Do you remember the good old days before the internet?
when arguments were only entered into by the physically or intellectually able.
a restricted (to the appropriate amount) anything will get its arse handed to it by a 50cc scooter.
the fact is, the tard is more likely to slide/wheelie/jump/attack pedestrians on sidewalks....
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
What exactly is involved in restricting an SXV550? What's the difference between restricted and unrestricted?
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I test rode one in Sydney and found it pathetic compared to the husky 510 but at the time I didn't know about the restrictions.
I think Rich rode his restricted for the running in period so he would know for sure what's involved.
Do you remember the good old days before the internet?
when arguments were only entered into by the physically or intellectually able.
I honestly would've thought a sxv550 would be faster tbh.
The ktm525 would get to 170
Im still deciding if I wait till LAMS comes in before I buy a bike as Im pretty sure 250's and under wil be cheap cheap once LAMS comes in
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