iPhone 3G

[azathoth]

Originally Posted by Desmogod

SMS and MMS should both be flawless if implemented, turn the phone on, receive messages.

exactly, SMS works flawlessly like that, why can't MMS?

because the networks and phone manafacturers can't agree on how to implement it - they all want to add in their own special customized way of accessing MMS images so they can charge you, meter your usage and price customers accordingly

most phones before the iphone were crippled to the extreme in order to squeeze more money out of customers, ringtones, wallpapers, themes, wake up calls, mms, sms notifications - all cost huge amounts

the iphone is really just a small computer with cellphone data network, how much does it cost me to send an email with a 2MP image on it with my iphone?

$0.00

[Brougham]

Originally Posted by azathoth

the iphone is really just a small computer with cellphone data network, how much does it cost me to send an email with a 2MP image on it with my iphone?

$0.00

data usage charges?

[azathoth]

Originally Posted by Brougham

data usage charges?

UK/US plans include unlimited internet (I'm in the UK)

the Australia iPhone plans are pretty braindead, given it's meant to be an internet device

[Brougham]

oh, didn't see dat...

[DaveR6]

Originally Posted by azathoth

exactly, SMS works flawlessly like that, why can't MMS?

because the networks and phone manafacturers can't agree on how to implement it - they all want to add in their own special customized way of accessing MMS images so they can charge you, meter your usage and price customers accordingly

most phones before the iphone were crippled to the extreme in order to squeeze more money out of customers, ringtones, wallpapers, themes, wake up calls, mms, sms notifications - all cost huge amounts

the iphone is really just a small computer with cellphone data network, how much does it cost me to send an email with a 2MP image on it with my iphone?

$0.00

i dont think u understand how mms actually works.

its quite similar to the email concept in terms of you need to tell it which server to use. then u need to the the phone how to access the data network.

the only thing that is customised about of accessing mms is the specific server that each mobile network uses. you enter it, end of story.

as for why it isnt pre-configured on your phone...well thats the providers being slack. its not a function of mr nokia or mr samsung not correctly implementing mms on your phone.

if i buy an iphone from vodafone or whoever, will i be able to take it out the box, turn it on and automatically be able to send/receive email?

[Bendito]

Every phone I've had, you call up, or go on the net, and get the config sent to your phone, you click ok on it and it "works"

Doesn't work though

[Pkunk]

Originally Posted by DaveR6

as for why it isnt pre-configured on your phone...well thats the providers being slack. its not a function of mr nokia or mr samsung not correctly implementing mms on your phone.

Hey its not the iPhone owners fault that 99% of the new phones out there are internet accessible but are an absolutely pain in the ass to use. Why should Apple bother implementing the outdated MMS when there are far more simpler alternatives

[Psyched]

When work bought our iPhones (from optU$) they set them up before they left the shop using the sim out of my old blackberry. Everything worked out of the box. We did have to hand over our sims for an hour though.
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[azathoth]

Originally Posted by DaveR6

if i buy an iphone from vodafone or whoever, will i be able to take it out the box, turn it on and automatically be able to send/receive email?

Sure if you got an email address with your service provider they could do that. But most people want to use their existing email address so you have to enter your server address, username and password.

I'm not saying iPhone shouldn't support MMS, people still use it. But email will make it obsolete.

MMS in the future? : The Swirly iPhone MMS Application Space

[contempo]

SwirlyMMS isn't 2.0 compatible atm.

[TYSON]

Can developers work on a PC?
No, the SDK will only work on Macs.

[merctom]

Originally Posted by TYSON

just install mac os x....

[browca04]

Or a virtual machine.

In all seriousness Apple, WTF?
Way to fuck up the concept of an open SDK guise...
Aren't you meant to encourage people to develop apps, no punish them for wanting to?

[barfridge]

ha! You poor misguided fools. Where is the money for apple in letting you make software?

There's a reason they do so much in-house software, now that they're paying somebody else for hardware they gotta afford those lattes and skivvies somehow

[TYSON]

Originally Posted by barfridge

ha! You poor misguided fools. Where is the money for apple in letting you make software?

There's a reason they do so much in-house software, now that they're paying somebody else for hardware they gotta afford those lattes and skivvies somehow

You can only sell software through itunes of which apple takes a cut

[barfridge]

well, that just upgraded things to a double ha! situation.

[Klink]

unless you make software for the jailbroken market Which will be the majority before long.

[browca04]

Like I said, aren't you supposed to encourage devs to make your software, not punish them???

[DaveR6]

talking to some mac people here, i just found out that with the iPhone theres no such thing a an application running in the background. seriously WTF??!

means u can run just leave an IM app running or a POP3/IMAP4 email client running and be notified. bit of a joke really if u can do that!

[Klink]

Not quite correct...

Some applications do run in the background... for example the email client is always running and will alert you when email is pushed to your phone.