2010 RS125 hard to get into neutral and low rev problem, performance kit?

[clyde]

Hi guys, I got 2010 RS125, it's only got 300kms on the clock now, I find that it's hard to get into neutral sometimes,why is that? coz it's new bike? I tried to push forward and backward little bit which I learnt from the google search, still hard to get into neutral sometimes, any of the owners here have an idea? and also I find between the 4.5-6k rpm the bike is very laggy even in the 1st gear on the hill... but after 6k rpm, the bike goes perfect,,would the arrow exhaust kit would fix this problem?
thx !

[Spock]

Firstly, every bike can be hard to get into neutral but particularly if it's tight and new. It will loosen up and, with practice, hopefully you will develop a little mechanical sympathy too! Remember that motorcycle gearboxes are not like electric switches - they are packed full of gears, dogs (no, not the 'woof, woof' kind!) and cogs - when stationary sometimes you need to roll the bike forward and back a little or blip the engine and slip the clutch a bit to get gears to engage or disengage.

Secondly, regarding the power coming in at 6000rpm (with nothing below) - that's called a powerband - it's a two stroke characteristic! Enjoy!

PS - a performance exhaust would probably sharpen, but narrow your powerband further.

[Spock]

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[Loud]

The coughing it experiences at 5k to 6k is normal, the CDI is setup to retard the ignition at those RPM in order to comply with emission tests. The Arrow exhaust won't fix it, a Zeeltronic ignition system would. It would also void your warranty and introduce a heap of other issues - leave the bike factory until the warranty expires.

[V4moose]

Did you buy your RS new? You obviously didn't thrash it during the test ride Welcome to two strokes mate.

[Lukey]

All normal as said above. I always found neutral hard to get, usually switching to second then lightly tapping it into neutral worked for me. As per manual to run it properly, avoid going over 6k rpm for the first 1000kms (I did state in your other thread that they tend to bog down between 5-6k rpm...).
Some ppl disagree with this method, but this is what the manual states.
So it's gonna be a painful 700kms for you! I found there was partially usable power around the 3-5k rpm mark, but hit a hill and start pushing.
Good luck!

[clyde]

Firstly, every bike can be hard to get into neutral but particularly if it's tight and new. It will loosen up and, with practice, hopefully you will develop a little mechanical sympathy too! Remember that motorcycle gearboxes are not like electric switches - they are packed full of gears, dogs (no, not the 'woof, woof' kind!) and cogs - when stationary sometimes you need to roll the bike forward and back a little or blip the engine and slip the clutch a bit to get gears to engage or disengage.

Secondly, regarding the power coming in at 6000rpm (with nothing below) - that's called a powerband - it's a two stroke characteristic! Enjoy!
PS - a performance exhaust would probably sharpen, but narrow your powerband further.

Thx bro,this helps!

[clyde]

Yes,i bought it brand new,,I didn't hav the test ride,,but I didn't regret,it's a great bike and so much fun...

[clyde]

Hey lukey,,I'm quite confused now,, the sales person told me to rev hard for this bike,coz that's wat the engine built for,even in the first 1000kms, mechanic guy told me to rev to the 7k rpm or higher when I take off on the hill... I did remember you mentioned abt the bike tend to bog down between 5-6k,,it just makes me embarrassing when someone is behind me...hopefully the performance kit will help... Other than the neutral gear and low rev problem,,this bike is awesome..

[filbert]

the performance kit is for once you're used to the bike and know how to ride it hard and keep it in the powerband, it doesn't just give you more power it changes the delivery, in some cases you can end up with a bike that is almost unridable unless it's between certain rpm ranges which is great on a track but a pain in the ass leaving the traffic lights.

[Desmo]

the sales person told me to rev hard for this bike

The sales person is right.

[Lukey]

And the manual incorrect? Or over sensitive?

[Loud]

Clyde it's your call as to whether or not to fit a performance kit.

But I just picked up a 2010 Max Biaggi RS125 tonight, it's only done 2,500km. I had to pick it up in a ute because it came in 1000 pieces, the dealer had stripped the engine to find out why it wasn't idling. The reason it wasn't idling was because the lower half of the piston on the exhaust port side had actually melted away and gone into the big end bearings. This was caused by the performance exhaust that the dealer themselves had fitted, but they didn't rejet the carburettor to suit the improved air flow. Even still, NO WARRANTY. The owner opted to sell the bike rather than pay the $6,500 to have the dealer rebuild the motor.

Bear it in mind before you make a decision.

[Heaven]

I always found neutral hard to get, usually switching to second then lightly tapping it into neutral worked for me.

Yeh, this is the method I use since it's almost impossible to get neutral from first as it always misses.

[clyde]

Clyde it's your call as to whether or not to fit a performance kit.

But I just picked up a 2010 Max Biaggi RS125 tonight, it's only done 2,500km. I had to pick it up in a ute because it came in 1000 pieces, the dealer had stripped the engine to find out why it wasn't idling. The reason it wasn't idling was because the lower half of the piston on the exhaust port side had actually melted away and gone into the big end bearings. This was caused by the performance exhaust that the dealer themselves had fitted, but they didn't rejet the carburettor to suit the improved air flow. Even still, NO WARRANTY. The owner opted to sell the bike rather than pay the $6,500 to have the dealer rebuild the motor.

Bear it in mind before you make a decision.

I paid $500 for the performance kit when I order the bike, I did some research abt the performance kit, it seems like those owners quite happy after the installation.... and I like the deep sound of the arrow exhaust system as the sales person showed me the demo rs125, so I decide to do this when it comes to 1000kms,, i got 2 yrs warranty and I am a weekend rider, so this wouldn't worry me too much... did u get very good price for your rs125? it looks like you are going to "rebuild" the bike ha?

[clyde]

Yeh, this is the method I use since it's almost impossible to get neutral from first as it always misses.

and sometimes I find its hard to get into the 1st gear from neutral... damn...

[Lukey]

Yeah I encounter that problem occasionally too. Give the engine a rev, clutch out and try again... Worked for me.

[clyde]

Yeah I encounter that problem occasionally too. Give the engine a rev, clutch out and try again... Worked for me.

cool ,,,will try next time,,,thx mate