rgv250 vs nsr150

[Tincey]

hello guys i am just about to go for my l's and start looking for a bike. i have made mind up that i want a 2storke at that aprilia's are out of my price range, so i have narrowed it down to either a rgv250 or an nsr150. just wondering if any of you could give me pros and cons or just help out my decition.
cherz jason

[smitto81]

if your handy with a spanner go the rgv

otherwise..... well

[rgvlee]

there is no comparison. the nsr150 is a cheap thai made commuter 2T, the rgv250 is a pure sports 250 2T.

[filbert]

yep +1

the NSR150 is designed for longevity commuting and general riding you will enjoy it as a learner without being overly disappointed riding alongside other 250s, if you are a truly natural rider or practice a lot you may learn to outride it inside of 12 months.

The RGV250 will blitz pretty much all learner bikes and even many larger bikes with a decent rider on it but they're not really a learner bike, they're a race replica an enthusiasts bike that sneaks in by capacity to WA laws, a much better handling bike than the RRRR 4 cylinder 4 strokes but the power delivery can be unfriendly and the handling can be twitchy/dangerous to the inexperienced, you won't outride a 250 2 stroke as a learner even a natural rider will still have some to learn at the end of their 12 months.

compare this to the GPX, NINJA, RRRR bikes etc etc with inferior suspension and extra weight you risk getting bored with the power delivery or even riding badly as you ride pushing the limitations of poor suspension and brakes.

[Gangus]

You won't be spewing that your stuck on a 250 and upgrading within 6 months on a rgv. Don't buy the first one you see, search out a good one as it's false economy. If a bike is meticulous it's likely the owner has looked after it and may be in good order.

[thro]

RGV no question.

If you're competent (and they make it easy to learn - by that, i mean easy to learn to corner competently as their limits are so high - mastering the power delivery is a little trickier), you'll keep up with pretty much anything in the suburbs due to the sheer lack of weight.

But, they are no where near as hassle free or rider friendly for dumb commuting stuff.



Also consider a tzr 250 or nsr 250. basically same thing as an rgv (maybe a little less power in stock form due to Jap market restrictions) without the chronic power valve problem that lunches cylinders.


I've been riding on the road for 5 years and the little RGV's limits (cornering wise) are still way beyond mine.

[fredie]

rgv250 1st choice bro

[Tincey]

thanks for the responses guys rgv250 sounds like the go, will also have a look at tzr and nsr.

[Desmo]

You handy with a spanner? The RGV will need constant fettling.

[pesty74]

or have a look at cagiva 125 its a 2stroke i got one and put on a tyga exhaust and v-force reed block and bigger jets and doubled its power im more than happy with it cant ride it enough when im home from working away

[Hayai]

theres only one problem with the RGV..... you'll find it hard to let her go.

took a ride of mine today after a few months and man... you can't throw many other bikes around like that.

[Loud]

Hmm, maybe you know of one that's for sale Hayai?

[Hayai]

Hmm, maybe you know of one that's for sale Hayai?

i rode her again today through the hills and i'm having second thoughts on selling her

But on a serious note, yes i am selling my RGV reluctantly.....

good talkin to ya @ the quiz night btw

[Tincey]

You handy with a spanner? The RGV will need constant fettling.

when you say handy, how handy. i am pretty good with the spanner on a car as i do all the work my self but i have never really taken it to a motorbike, all i have a done to bikes is take the carby apart on my old yz125. what kind of stuff will need fixing?

[g0zer]

i wouldn't get an rgv250 to learn on unless you are a mechanic or at the least mechanically minded with tools and like spannering as much if not more than riding.

also i would never rely on an rgv250 as my primary road going motorcycle.

[Tincey]

i wouldn't get an rgv250 to learn on unless you are a mechanic or at the least mechanically minded with tools and like spannering as much if not more than riding.

also i would never rely on an rgv250 as my primary road going motorcycle.

I am quite mechanically mind and enjoy fiddling and fixing thing. What kind of things happen to these bikes and if I get one am I likely to end up stuck on the side of the road?

[g0zer]

i assume you want to use the bike as a daily. imho a good learner bike, is something you can ride daily- lots of practice makes good riders. lots of spannering makes for good mechanics.

a vj22 is circa 1990, 21 years old how many km do you think the average bike has done? if its low km its probably cos it sat in a shed for 15 years after it blew up, until someone could be bothered to fix it.

the engines want a new set of pistons every 10,000km, a new crank say every 40,000km. a lot of them have blown up cos the powervalve pins have chopped out and dropped into the running motor, so i figure those need to be replaced every 40,000km.

because its a 2T, they blow up when they arent tuned properly. i learnt how to tune strokes by blowing them up. it was expensive, i didnt do much riding and i did lots of spannering.

because they are old they blow up cos the components are worn out. because the bores are nikasil they cannot simply be rebored for an oversize piston.

if you buy one, the first thing you should probably do is tear it down and rebuild it. its heaps cheaper and easier to replace worn components before they fail in a running motor. do you want to buy a bike you can jump on and ride? or a project?

a moneypit perhaps?

[LeighThomas]

I always wanted to feel the power band of a 2 stroke road tuned bike.

[Hayai]

i assume you want to use the bike as a daily. imho a good learner bike, is something you can ride daily- lots of practice makes good riders. lots of spannering makes for good mechanics.

a vj22 is circa 1990, 21 years old how many km do you think the average bike has done? if its low km its probably cos it sat in a shed for 15 years after it blew up, until someone could be bothered to fix it.

the engines want a new set of pistons every 10,000km, a new crank say every 40,000km. a lot of them have blown up cos the powervalve pins have chopped out and dropped into the running motor, so i figure those need to be replaced every 40,000km.

because its a 2T, they blow up when they arent tuned properly. i learnt how to tune strokes by blowing them up. it was expensive, i didnt do much riding and i did lots of spannering.

because they are old they blow up cos the components are worn out. because the bores are nikasil they cannot simply be rebored for an oversize piston.

if you buy one, the first thing you should probably do is tear it down and rebuild it. its heaps cheaper and easier to replace worn components before they fail in a running motor. do you want to buy a bike you can jump on and ride? or a project?

a moneypit perhaps?

wow g0zer, some how you made me scared of even looking at my own rgv

[g0zer]

ive not even put my fully rebuilt after 12,700km motor into mine that i bought 12 months ago. i dont want it to blow up