No need to wait for PJME and the unit is PC programmable. Just go to the Zeeltronic website. I am not sure about the warning light bit, I installed the unit on a 2002 125, had no warning lights ???. The cylinder needed machining to adjust the ports, that makes the VHM head not needed.
Isn't my bike so I don't have to replace them
Cheers for the tip. I am interested in the Zeeltronic, but will find out more about drilling the dimple in the late model CDI - apparently this cancels the emmissions dips that essentially retard the ignition at certain rpm.
Seriously though I have every single warning light on my bike at the moment, except temperature. EFI, Oil and the main Engine Warning light. This came about from removing the: Air Pump, Carb Heater, Throttle Position Sensor, Air Box and soon possibly the oil resevoir (if I choose to run premix). I'm just hoping to clear the lights with the CDI modification, as otherwise I'll be playing around with resistors and diodes for a while!
Being pre-Euro 3 you wouldn't have had any of the stuff I mentioned, thus no warning lights. That being the case, why did you go for the hard wired Zeeltronic instead of the Dual Curve Programmable CDI that's a simple plug-in for pre-2006 bikes?
Erm why remove the TPS and airbox?
The Zeeltronic gives you far more than getting rid of the emissions dip.Like changing the RAVE open point and the flatshifter, power jet cut and 3D mapping. The Zeel IS dual curve switchable on the fly with a bar mounted switch. If you look at the wiring diagram it is 6 wires to cut , connect and solder. Then mount the box simple as than takes 10mins. A better question is why wouldn't you use one?
Nicely putOriginally Posted by EEKNOWS
With those extra features it would seem to be worth the extra money on top of the Dual CDI unit I was looking at. Can I please ask:
- Power Jet Cut - How does this work on a mechanical carburettor?
- Flatshifter - Does that mean it has a rev-limiter built in?
- 6 wires - This is for a street ridden bike with indicators etc?
Possibly for the same reason you replaced a perfectly capable CDI.
A tps is cruitial to part throttle running, as you run different advance... But hey, who needs to get any rideabiliy out of a 125....
And the flat shifter is quickshifter. No letting go of throttle or using clutch upshifting. Uber cool
I'm liking the sound of this Zeeltronic more and more...
Rideability, nice
I found my bike very rideable at all RPM without TPS - granted it may also have something to do with the exhaust, reeds, bigger carb etc. though. So whilst it's preferable to have ignition advance during acceleration, it may be fair to say that there are other factors that will also affect the rideability?
The zeeltronic with 3d maps will make the bike, when dialed in ofcourse, a lot more flexable. As it's not all about hanging on in a straight line and going yeah, my bike is sick! But when your pushing through a corner at part throttle, carrying heaps of speed and having that sweet response that shoots you out hard. This is where a programmable unit comes into it's own as it is setup to your engine, as every two stroke engine responds to differing timing differently.
I feel somewhat disillusioned...
Disappointment. Checked out the wiring diagram for the Zeeltronic and it does look easy to fit with just 10 wires - sadly 2 of them are for the TPS mounted to the factory 28mm carb... So great for rideability and uber cool features, just not compatable with the big racing carb. The 'derestriction' dimple on the factory CDI is looking at me...
Just adapt the cable splitter box of an RGV/RS 250 they have a TPS built in.
Now there's an interesting idea! Is this something that you have done before? I'd be intersted in seeing pictures of what is involved.
I can't say that it's something I'd put on as a short-term priority (my riding skills are still a long way behind the capabilities of the bike's current power output and delivery) but I do like to mess around with it...
Not hard to envisage a box with cables going into and out of it and a bit with a few wires coming out one end
Just a quick question.. would it be ok to run Motul 800 2T on a stock standard RS125?
I know Motul states that the 800 are for premix only but I can get the Motul 800 2T cheaper than the 710 at the moment. Would running the 800 through the injector system be a bad idea?
just the tip..
....Why would you cheap out?
I'm running the Castrol Power TTS, it's expensive but the others aren't THAT much cheaper...
Not cheaping out, I'm happy to pay for top stuff for my bike. The Motul 800 retails for around $40 / litre so I don't consider that to be a cheap out. Since I could get the top of the line Motul 800 for around $30 (on special) while the Motul 710 retails at $35, Im just wondering if it's ok for the bike to run the 800 instead of 710.
just the tip..
The 710 is the right one of the 2 two use, why would you run the 800 for the sake of $5?
Progress.
After the last motor grenaded 3.5km after it's rebuild (Consumer Protection are now involved) I've finally compiled the last of the parts required to conduct yet another rebuild.
I'd like to point out that RS125 parts are readily available on ebay - from the UK in particular but also from Germany, however you need to translate the part name accurately! - however I took my time to find identical parts. Many believe the 122 motor cases are all the same but there are actually at least 4 different casting numbers - I have no idea what the differences are between them though I have seen the physical external differences on two.
Also I'm in the process of sourcing the RS250 splitter box as suggested by EEKNOWS, but have had no luck as yet. Anyone know of where I can obtain one locally?
Ahh and I've had Competition Industrial Coatings perform their magic on the Arrow expansion chamber. I'll miss the blueing of the welds but I got tired of the spots of rust that kept resurfacing.
Once it's running again I'll post the whole bike rebuild under the Members Projects section.
Did it seize? Why? Just a top end rebuild or something more sinister? You really haven't had much luck with the bike!
Did you consider a big bore kit? I mean, you gotta pull it apart and you've done everything else!
I had the same issues on my jolly moto exhaust - specifically asked the stooges at the bike shop to order in a stainless steel item but they failed. I sanded mine back at the rust spots and gave it 3 coats of vht clear paint, worked a treat!
I went shopping at pjme and got some red anodized bar ends, gold rear Axel nut and evotech exhaust hanger.
Goodluck again mate! Always interesting to read your ventures.
Yep it seized on the freeway, a quick zzzzzZP followed by the sounds of silence. So I decided on a full rebuild by a local company. The rebuilt motor lasted 3.5km before the gearbox lunched... Consumer Protection is now involved.
I can't say that I'm too interested in the big bore kit, it's more fun eating 4 stroke 250s when they realise you have only half the motor they have
Aside from the Ceramic coating making the chamber look like mirror-polished Stainless, it also keeps the heat in. It also coats the inside of the chamber, so there's no chance the bugger will rust!
For all the bad luck I've had with the bike, I wouldn't swap it for any 4 stroke 250. Besides, I'm not ever selling it now that I've seen what it can do - plus I've spent all this time learning it inside out!
Cheers for the nice words mate!
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