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    Quote Originally Posted by shmoo View Post
    So you don't buy any fuel in WA?
    I refuse to line them more... why pay another 10cents or more over Peak/Gull for BP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mantic View Post
    I refuse to line them more... why pay another 10cents or more over Peak/Gull for BP?
    ^^^ and the fact that they were responsible for the deep water horizon f%^k up in the gulf of mexico!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRC 51 View Post
    ^^^ and the fact that they were responsible for the deep water horizon f%^k up in the gulf of mexico!!
    Yeah and that BS! as well as price gouging! list goes on with these muppets!

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    I found this on the shell website,

    Although Shell V-Power is compatible with most bikes there may be a requirement to make slight adjustments to the engine such as changing spark plugs, and reducing the size of carburettor jets, or a combination of both.

    Bikes used mainly for city running (and therefore subject to considerable stop-start running) are likely to need such adjustments when changed to Shell V-Power.

    Some fine adjustments may also be required to ensure when the bike is hot it runs smoother and with better overall performance and in particular there is more power at the top end.

    Something to think about, I am trying a tank of 91 octane fuel in my bike so ill see how it runs.

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    Use what your manual recommends unless you have tuned your bike to suit alternative fuel.
    I was putting 98 in my SX 250 and would foul a lot of plugs, someone told me it's about the oil staying behind but didn't really explain it very well. Any way I checked the owners manual and it recommends 95 and I haven't fouled a plug since and I read up some more on fuels and found what the guy told me to be correct he just didn't explain it to well. No noticable power differance either. I think some people just like to sound cool when they say "I only run my shit on ultimate/vortex/whatever."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRC 51 View Post
    ^^^ and the fact that they were responsible for the deep water horizon f%^k up in the gulf of mexico!!
    Quote Originally Posted by mantic View Post
    Yeah and that BS! as well as price gouging! list goes on with these muppets!

    I find this slack of knowledge quite amusing. Don't get me wrong, I blame the Media, but you swallowed it hook line and sinker, and now have aggression towards the company.

    It was the drill rig operators who failed. It was their Blow Out Preventer, they had already had several 'kicks' in the line and continued drilling. Following that it was just stupidity from BP (but not their fault for the leak), even the USA government joined the failed attempts and cover ups.
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    Er, not quite. Although it wasn't entirely BPs fault

    KEY COMMISSION FINDINGS
    SUMMARY: The Commission found that the Deepwater Horizon disaster was foreseeable and preventable. Errors and misjudgments by three major oil drilling companies—BP, Halliburton, and Transocean—played key roles in the disaster. Government regulation was ineffective, and failed to keep pace with technology advancements in offshore drilling.
    1. The Macondo well blowout was the product of human error, engineering mistakes, and management failures, including the following: Failure adequately to evaluate and manage risk in late-stage well-design decisions.
    • Failure to redesign cement slurry in response to tests that repeatedly demonstrated problems with the slurry design.
    • Failure to recognize that the critical “negative pressure test”—a key test used to determine the integrity of the cement job that seals off the well—signaled that the cement at the well-bottom had failed to seal off hydrocarbons.
    • Failure to recognize that the temporary well-abandonment procedures, which BP changed repeatedly in the days leading up to the blowout, unnecessarily increased the risk of a well blowout.
    • Failure to recognize and respond to early warning signals of the hydrocarbon influx (or “kick”) that eventually became the blowout.
    • Failure to respond appropriately to the blowout once it began, including but not limited to the failure of the rig’s blowout preventer to shut in the well.
    2. These errors, mistakes, and management failures were not the product of a single, rogue company, but instead reveal both failures and inadequate safety procedures by three key industry players that have a large presence in offshore oil and gas drilling throughout the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady7/8 View Post
    I find this slack of knowledge quite amusing. Don't get me wrong, I blame the Media, but you swallowed it hook line and sinker, and now have aggression towards the company.

    It was the drill rig operators who failed. It was their Blow Out Preventer, they had already had several 'kicks' in the line and continued drilling. Following that it was just stupidity from BP (but not their fault for the leak), even the USA government joined the failed attempts and cover ups.
    Doesn't explain the price gouging! Go down Main St and expect BP's prices to be 5-10cents more than the IGA Peak on Wanneroo Road! and yes thats without discount vouchers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster View Post
    Er, not quite. Although it wasn't entirely BPs fault

    KEY COMMISSION FINDINGS
    SUMMARY: The Commission found that the Deepwater Horizon disaster was foreseeable and preventable. Errors and misjudgments by three major oil drilling companies—BP, Halliburton, and Transocean—played key roles in the disaster. Government regulation was ineffective, and failed to keep pace with technology advancements in offshore drilling.
    1. The Macondo well blowout was the product of human error, engineering mistakes, and management failures, including the following: Failure adequately to evaluate and manage risk in late-stage well-design decisions.
    • Failure to redesign cement slurry in response to tests that repeatedly demonstrated problems with the slurry design.
    • Failure to recognize that the critical “negative pressure test”—a key test used to determine the integrity of the cement job that seals off the well—signaled that the cement at the well-bottom had failed to seal off hydrocarbons.
    • Failure to recognize that the temporary well-abandonment procedures, which BP changed repeatedly in the days leading up to the blowout, unnecessarily increased the risk of a well blowout.
    • Failure to recognize and respond to early warning signals of the hydrocarbon influx (or “kick”) that eventually became the blowout.
    • Failure to respond appropriately to the blowout once it began, including but not limited to the failure of the rig’s blowout preventer to shut in the well.
    2. These errors, mistakes, and management failures were not the product of a single, rogue company, but instead reveal both failures and inadequate safety procedures by three key industry players that have a large presence in offshore oil and gas drilling throughout the world.
    All those issues bar the change to Emergency Disconnect procedures are on the hands of Transocean - the rig operators. Had they responded to all the information on hand it would have played out very differently, and all the other failings from BPs EDC procedure to the government regulations would never have become apparent

    The price structure is a different issue, that I'm not getting into as I don't know enough either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady7/8 View Post
    All those issues bar the change to Emergency Disconnect procedures are on the hands of Transocean - the rig operators. Had they responded to all the information on hand it would have played out very differently, and all the other failings from BPs EDC procedure to the government regulations would never have become apparent

    The price structure is a different issue, that I'm not getting into as I don't know enough either way.
    Yeah, that's why there are multiple barriers to prevent an event, pity BPs weren't in place wasn't it ?
    All I know, is the results from the, what I would assume would have to be a pretty damn thorough, enquiry shared the blame out. So yes, it wasn't a case of BP being a great evil compared to the others, but they certainly contributed. And in my book the days when you could wash your hands and blame the contractor are gone. The company has a duty to ensure that best practice is applied across the board. Forget the bullshit procedures for putting a lid on you're coffee cup when walking to your desk and get the important shit sorted (that applies not just to BP). Sorry, that's one of my pet hates in the industry, I'll go take my lithium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiterx View Post
    I found this on the shell website,

    Although Shell V-Power is compatible with most bikes there may be a requirement to make slight adjustments to the engine such as changing spark plugs, and reducing the size of carburettor jets, or a combination of both.

    Bikes used mainly for city running (and therefore subject to considerable stop-start running) are likely to need such adjustments when changed to Shell V-Power.

    Some fine adjustments may also be required to ensure when the bike is hot it runs smoother and with better overall performance and in particular there is more power at the top end.

    Something to think about, I am trying a tank of 91 octane fuel in my bike so ill see how it runs.
    hmmm? i was under the impression that highter octane fuels need bigger jets, as they can use more fuel to make more power. Or am i getting confused with alcohol fuels????.
    Lost and on reserve

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    Oh look, another thread about 98...

    BP Ultimate 98

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loud View Post
    Oh look, another thread about 98...

    BP Ultimate 98
    I was just thinking the same thing.

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