Dorro's stupid swansong

[thro]

10% lower limit = 10% more congestion on the road (or more, due to people driving even slower and thus creating more congestion because of the congestion caused by the 10% drop in speed), more frustration, road rage, and WASTED TIME.

How about they use some of that money to improve the roads with traffic flow in mind. Or, for a start, fucking FIX the numerous potholes all over tonkin hwy properly, rather than some shitty patch job that lasts 2-3 days.

[Martin1]

that's exactly the kind of crap i don't understand either^^
they did the same for armadale rd recently (between the freeway and nicholson). they had signs up warning of the roadworks months prior, and i thought "finally they are going to fix this pot-holed piece of sh*t road!"
but no, they caused all this drama with the traffic on a pretty busy road just to fill in a couple of the potholes, which have now started to open up again since the last heavy rain!
great success main roads...

so yes, it is a useless bit of road full of pot holes with almost no lighting, and if we lower the speed limit 10km/hr we might see some benefit, or we could fix the bloody road properly so it is more like the stretch after nicholson - dual carriageway, well lit, good surface...

but that would make too much sense now wouldn't it??

[Juffy]

Of course they could try building the damn roads properly in the first place. Take a drive out Gt Eastern Hwy beyond Sawyers - they had half the road closed last weekend because the surface was potholing like all hell. And this is the nice new 110k dual carriageway that was only finished...what, last year?

[PatB]

"Drivers in Perth need to wake the fuck up - period."

Well that ain't going to happen. Not at the government's behest anyway.

I used to have some involvement in road safety related areas of the government and I can tell you that there are a significant number of influential people in the departments concerned who genuinely believe that it's every commuter's right to get in their car and effectively go to sleep because "for many people it's the only time they get to relax".


So keep your eyes open people, because you don't just have to be vigilant for yourselves, but now you have to make sure you don't spoil the relaxation time of all those harassed commuters by embedding yourself in their front wings.

[desmodude]

+ 1 for a hit , i hate that dorro turd , or get some lawyers on his case , yeah check with swede's there conditions really replicate australia , hey why not study germany or brunei who have no speed limits and great roads and the best trained drivers

[Machast]

Originally Posted by CitizenD

The answer is simple:

Make people afraid of driving again. Not afraid of being booked, but afraid of being killed. Bring back the grim reaper on the curb.

Remind people that driving is a dangerous and potentially fatal activity that should be treated with respect and deserves 100% attention at all times.

In the same sentiment, I recall Jeremy Clarkson suggesting that steering wheels contain a spike instead of an airbag.

[browca04]

Because everytime that cuntwipe Dorro says something, I need to go to the ER to have my bladder cooled, due to the fact that the useless runt utterly boils my piss, I proudly present (In a style shamelessly stolen from Princess Deb) browca04's list of shit that would stop the clusterfuck known as "Driving in WA":

Point the fucking first: EDUCATION: Stop fucking about with these pussyfoot arsehole measures like banning p platers from driving at night (seriously, What-The-Fuck????) and actually teach people how to drive. Make the test fucking difficult. Don't look at an intersection? FAIL. Don't check blinspot? FAIL. Don't indicate changing lanes? FAIL. Sit 5 km under the limit? YOU BET YOUR FUCKING ARSE YOU JUST FAILED!

Point the fucking second: SPEEDINGHOONING: Fuck this shit off.
Completely. Street racing, drags etc, target that. Most people can barely keep their cars on the sticky bit at the track, let alone some tosspot in his fully sik V8 on a suburban st. $1.50 down the Freeway at 11:30 on a Tuesday night is NOT hooning. It's driving fast in relatively safe conditions. Popping a minger in an industrial area on a Sunday is not hooning. Doing a burnout in a carpark, is not fucking hooningAssess situations within their context. It's called using that wonderfulonium (aka grey matter) in your head. browca04 supports the use of this grey matter/wonderfulonium at all times.

Point the fucking third: BACON: They are there to arrest little old ladies and protect bad guys etc, etc. They are not their to hide behind bus stops and bushes and cruise in blue commodores hoping to catch people doing a few clicks over the limit. Remove ALL unmarked cop cars and only use fixed camera's at black spot accident site (where speed is the major cause, not driver ran a red light doing 6km over, but driver lost control at $1.50 kind of thing)

Point the fucking fourth: EDUCATION: Did I mention make the test hard? Because you need to make the tests harder. Why do so many P Platers have accidents? Because the test is too fucking easy. Next point.

Point the fucking fifth: SPEED LIMITS: Increase them. 60km/hr residential. Dual carriageways should be 70 left lane, 80 right lane. Freeways should be 120. Rural highways could probably be 120/130, with nice shiny new double carriageway ones being 140.

That's all I got for now, but only because my pants are so hot it's painful...

[BigCat]

And in a perfect world this might happen too:

Council scraps speed cameras - because they are 'a blatant tax on the motorist' | Mail Online

[browca04]

God bless that man's little cotton socks.
With any luck, his suddenoutbreakofcommonsense-itis is contagious.

[Woodzzter]

Ok - at the risk of getting flamed to absolute buggery (and with only the text on Perth Now to go by), it seems a lot of people have jumped on the line "The move comes despite overwhelming evidence to suggest that the quickest and most effective way to curb the road toll is by dropping speed limits, including research that showed 5500 less people would be killed or serioulsy injured if overall speed limits were reduced by 10km/h across WA." yet ignored the previous paragraph: But the council failed to recommend lowering overall speed limits after a mixed response from the community consultation.

No point jumping up and down saying that the RSC (Road Safety council) are idiots because they are trying to lower speed limits. They didn't recommend lowering speed limits, the PerthNow journo / article did.

There is also no mention of Swedish data recommending speed limits be lowered. What it DID say was that the report was based on Swedish research. Again - remember here that the RSC report makes no mention of lowering speed limits.

Recommendations that WERE contained in the report

*To replace corporate and Government fleet vehicles with cars that have electronic stability controls, which take over control if a vehicle runs off the road, as well as intelligent speed adaptation systems, that are linked to global positioning systems, and sound an alarm for the driver when the car is travelling over the speed limit.

Agree that education would be better served here. Most cars / GPS systems have speed limit warnings anyway and new cars seem to be coming out with ESC anyway so this will eventually happen as government/corporate cars get replaced over time.

*Establish an independent WA-based road safety research centre in the next three years.

Not a bad thing - at least this will stop eveyrone saying "But that data is from fucking Sweden - why can't we use WA data"

*Safety barriers and audible roadside edge lining to prevent run-off-the-road crashes.

Cats eyes on the side of country roads ARE one way of providing an indication to tired drivers. Maybe not the bets of measures but at least a step in the right direction, specially on country roads where these are not already in place.

*Ensure that school-owned buses ensure lap and shoulder seatbelts are fitted.

Dunno about this one though. This seems to be precautionary rather than preventative, ie: "well when the bus does crash, people are wearing seat belts".

*Develop treatment options for the top 100 intersection crash sites and the top 20 per cent of run-off-the-road crash sites.

Again, not a bad thing - looking at existing black spots and fixing them.

Feel free to bag the RSC for anything that actually IS in the report, but you can't really bag them for something that someone else said.

Finally - Yeah Dorrington might be an idiot but if you are going to complain about a report, at least try and complain about something that is actually IN a report

PS: Sorry to add a rational response to a thread about the RSC