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bobinatcat
23-11-2012, 01:52 PM
Does anyone have any experience with them?

I have an older unworking pair of er6i's that can be sent away to get a discount model of my choice. I was considering the HF5's...apparently the current equivalent model but I was considering upgrading.
Etymotic Research, Inc. - Customer Support - Out-of-Warranty / Special Purchase Option (http://www.etymotic.com/cs/outwarranty.html)
Ps, If anyone else is in the same situtation, I was quoted plus 50 for postage back.

Captain Starfish
23-11-2012, 02:42 PM
Yes.

They are that good.

The isolation is amazing. The sound is reference quality. And they're quality built. I've had one pair for nearly 7 years, replace the filters and tips every 6 months or so and they just keep rocking on.

Barfridge
23-11-2012, 02:55 PM
How much better than the ER6i? Because I must say I don't have a single complaint about mine.

Captain Starfish
23-11-2012, 03:47 PM
Dunno. It's down to specs, I guess, you sure as fuck aren't bashing my plugs in your earholes to compare and I do not wish to do the same with yours :P

bobinatcat
25-11-2012, 05:52 PM
The only complaint I had with the 6i's were they were a tad light on bass. The only thing that is making me reconsider.

mekon
25-11-2012, 08:11 PM
Just a reminder Barfridge don't drop yours in dirt, step on them and strip the wires etc as Etymotics don't make them anymore. I was gutted when I broke mine.

Barfridge
25-11-2012, 09:25 PM
roger that. The one thing that does worry me is the bare wire running straight out of the earpiece, with no strain relief or protection from over-bending. It looks to me like it would be a common point of failure, so I'm always really careful to remove them by grabbing the earpiece and not yanking the cord.

bobinatcat
25-11-2012, 09:37 PM
roger that. The one thing that does worry me is the bare wire running straight out of the earpiece, with no strain relief or protection from over-bending. It looks to me like it would be a common point of failure, so I'm always really careful to remove them by grabbing the earpiece and not yanking the cord.

Exactly how mine died. One side has no contact point left in the wire.

Captain Starfish
26-11-2012, 06:40 AM
The 4s are nice in the tab they give you, which is part of a replaceable cord assembly that plugs into the earpieces. Mine died from cable fatigue just above the split point where the clip is, but a few minutes with a soldering iron and some heatshrink tube saved me $50 for a replacement (and $50 for shipping a cable).

mekon
26-11-2012, 03:07 PM
Yeah, the whole earpiece is held together by heatshrink. My wire went part way down, some people suggest rewiring with say an iphone headset cable.

bobinatcat
05-12-2012, 03:03 PM
Hmm I strayed. Tossed up between these:

Brainwavz: B2 | Headphonic: Australian Headphone Specialists: Buy Etymotic, Alessandro, Audio Technica, Ultimate Ears, Talisman, Meier Audio and more (http://headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=556)
Very etymotic style. Precise but not much bass.

Atrio: M5 | Headphonic: Australian Headphone Specialists: Buy Etymotic, Alessandro, Audio Technica, Ultimate Ears, Talisman, Meier Audio and more (http://headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=389)
Pumping bass, just a tad too much if you listen to something softer...Still sounds very good though.

Audiofly: AF78 | Headphonic: Australian Headphone Specialists: Buy Etymotic, Alessandro, Audio Technica, Ultimate Ears, Talisman, Meier Audio and more (http://headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=718)
Local made, 5year warranty...but just felt like it was missing something...best way to describe it. Almost a perfect mix of the lack of bass and too bassy.

So they were apparently the best choices for me under $200...Then he made me try these:
Vsonic: GR07 | Headphonic: Australian Headphone Specialists: Buy Etymotic, Alessandro, Audio Technica, Ultimate Ears, Talisman, Meier Audio and more (http://headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=728)
Admittedly they were $300 not in the $200 range like the others, but I wasn't completely satisfied with the other options so I payed a bit extra...

They don't look like much but they aren't too bassy, but the response for everything is perfect. Perfect compact addition to my other units:
Audio Technica: ATH-M50s | Headphonic: Australian Headphone Specialists: Buy Etymotic, Alessandro, Audio Technica, Ultimate Ears, Talisman, Meier Audio and more (http://headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=604)

Hope my findings will be of some use to someone.

Oh by the way the Atrio and the Brainwaves but can accept Ety tips if that a bonus for you.

Dragunov-21
05-12-2012, 03:24 PM
So in the end you got the GR07s and a pair of M50s as well?

bobinatcat
05-12-2012, 06:57 PM
Sorry that was misleading. I already owned the M50's. Both are a very good buy for the price!

bobinatcat
07-01-2013, 03:15 PM
So in the end you got the GR07s and a pair of M50s as well?

Tell you what, still loving both. Only downside to the gr07's are they could do with a bit more isolation. I'll look into some comply foam tips for them I reckon. :)

Dragunov-21
08-01-2013, 05:54 PM
Glad you're enjoying them, dude.

Havign a decent set of portables really changes how you enjoy music, IMO.

bobinatcat
08-01-2013, 07:42 PM
Glad you're enjoying them, dude.

Havign a decent set of portables really changes how you enjoy music, IMO.

So true; It has turned listening to music into more of an activity rather than a multitasking activity.

Rhino
01-08-2014, 03:18 PM
Bought some HF3s today.

None of the damned bud fittings fit me properly/comfortably ;(
All tri-tips are too small - too narrow and long at the pointy in to hold in place.
I'm using the crappy standard shaped ones which are just too big and uncomfortable.

Sound is amazing though.

The 'awareness' app is interesting too...

Dragunov-21
01-08-2014, 04:44 PM
Bought some HF3s today.

None of the damned bud fittings fit me properly/comfortably ;(
All tri-tips are too small - too narrow and long at the pointy in to hold in place.
I'm using the crappy standard shaped ones which are just too big and uncomfortable.

Sound is amazing though.

The 'awareness' app is interesting too...

Two words.

Shure Olives.

Shure make olive foam tips that come in small/medium/large (for the ER4/HF3 form factor I'd recommend getting smalls and then inserting them deeeeeep). Check eBay.

They're comfortable and last well for foamies, if not as long as silicones. They look gross because every speck of detritus shows up but are otherwise top shelf shit.

Rhino
01-08-2014, 07:54 PM
On your recommendation to go deeeeeeeeeeep, the tips that came with it seem to be fitting better.
I was just pussying out too early I think cos I'm not used to them.

Much better.

Rhino
01-08-2014, 08:14 PM
The 'awareness' app is interesting too...
So, the Awareness app runs in the background on the smartphone.

It basically gives you the ability to override the noise cancelling nature of the tips, by allowing a specified amount of surrounding noise in.
When the buds are in, you don't hear much around you at all. They're very effective.

When the app is activated, you set the amount of background noise you want to filter out by setting a threshold. And when the threshold is reached, what you want the mic volume in the remote to be so it can relay the sounds around you, through the buds.

Just tried it with the Mrs. Was weird.
Couldn't hear her directly, but she was talking inside my head.
Riding the pushy will be an interesting test.

Only works with earphones that have the remote, as it needs the mic.

Oh, and bought through these guys in Tuart Hill: Headphonic | Australian Headphone Specialists: Buy Etymotic, Alessandro, Audio Technica, Ultimate Ears, Talisman, Meier Audio and more (http://headphones.com.au/)

Kryzaach
05-08-2014, 09:06 AM
I used to have ER4's until I accidentally stepped on one tip.
They sound amazing, my only complaint is that the cable is microphonic(conducts sound to your ears), which can get bloody annoying.
On the plus side, I found a guy that makes up custom rigid over the ear cables for them and grabbed one.
Made it my go to set of phones until I broke them.

If anyone has ER4's and wants to convert them to over the ear style canalphones, hit me up and you can have the replacement cable, I can't use it anyway.

These days I use my trusty Shure 535's. Different physical design and sound, but arguably the same class as the ER4's. They don't isolate quite as well, but then again, I don't use flanges, only the dense yellow foam tips.

Dragunov-21
05-08-2014, 10:57 AM
I used to have ER4's until I accidentally stepped on one tip.
They sound amazing, my only complaint is that the cable is microphonic(conducts sound to your ears), which can get bloody annoying.
On the plus side, I found a guy that makes up custom rigid over the ear cables for them and grabbed one.
Made it my go to set of phones until I broke them.

If anyone has ER4's and wants to convert them to over the ear style canalphones, hit me up and you can have the replacement cable, I can't use it anyway.

These days I use my trusty Shure 535's. Different physical design and sound, but arguably the same class as the ER4's. They don't isolate quite as well, but then again, I don't use flanges, only the dense yellow foam tips.

How much you want for them? I'd love some less microphonic cables for mine.

Desmo
15-08-2014, 08:29 AM
So what is a decent set of 'phones without breaking the bank?
Buds or cans, I'm not fussy.
I'd love some Etymotics but money.

Captain Starfish
15-08-2014, 01:33 PM
Get a decent job ya povvo cunt. Then get some Etys. :fuck:

Dragunov-21
15-08-2014, 01:49 PM
I'd love some Etymotics but money.

What's your budget? I think cans are gonna be better bang for buck assuming you have a decent source (able to drive them) or an amp.

That said, ER4s really are that good and they'll be a buy-once affair unless you lose them.

Desmo
15-08-2014, 01:50 PM
What's your budget? I think cans are gonna be better bang for buck assuming you have a decent source (able to drive them) or an amp.

That said, ER4s really are that good and they'll be a buy-once affair unless you lose them.

Hundred bucks maybe?

Captain Starfish
15-08-2014, 06:38 PM
Fwiw: they cost a bomb, but that was in 2006 and they are still going strong. Work out $ per hour use and they're cheaper than the cheapies.