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    Are LED headlights ADR compliant?

    I want to get this XR650 registered that I've just bought. The standard headlight is pretty pissweak, but doesn't work on low beam, so I need to do something to it anyway.

    An obvious option is an LED headlight like this. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4x6-Moto...HLjX:rk:2:pf:0

    Does anyone have any experience with putting bikes over the pits with these? What's got me worried is that the inspector might notice that it's non-standard and make me replace it with the standard unit.

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    Fix it and take it over with a standard unit and replace it afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Steak View Post
    Are LED headlights ADR compliant?
    Simple answer is NO unless the vehicle came with them as standard or as an optional extra
    Saying that retrofitting of LED and HID's is quite common and unless they are badly fitted/not adjusted well or you choose some stupid bright blue/purple then they shouldn't be an issue

    I've been running 35w HID's in my Bird for over 10 years and never had an issue with them sine the initial fitting where I had to adjust them down due to being too bright for oncoming traffic even during the day
    I'm currently doing some work on he BB and going to fit a 55w HID to the high beam for even more eyeball melting goodness to pick out those pesky roos on my rides to and from work

    I'm also looking at fitting some LED's to the HB's in my Falcon for the same reason


    Do as Turbs said and fit a std bulb for the pits and then retrofit an LED later Even if you fit up a LED now, make sure it works and just remove it and fit a std globe for the pits and then refit it later
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboR1 View Post
    Fix it and take it over with a standard unit and replace it afterwards.

    Only thing worse than dealing with a cop that is clueless about what is legal or not is dealing with someone that failed to be a cop and isn't clueless about what is legal and isn't.
    agree with 100% what you just said mate,, ,,it depends on the person doing the inspections.

    and to "chuck steak"- mate ,just call them and ask them before you head out for an inspection . headlights and indicators aren't that big of a problem but they can be if someone's too anal with the rule book..ha ha.. btw bloke at brooklands in wangara was pretty good when i had my harley done 2 years ago , i've got another yellow one on z750 so will see how it goes this time around...cheers

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    If the LED complies with ADR it is legal. see narva cattledog et al.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Steak View Post
    What's got me worried is that the inspector might notice that it's non-standard and make me replace it with the standard unit.
    its a $7 globe WHY would you waste everyones time?

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    Yeah Iíve actually got two bikes to register - an XR650L and R. Iíll do the L first and just transfer the globe across to the R. Iíve come across some real fuckwits as inspectors. Once had a GS1000S inspected and the bloke reckoned it had a vibration of some sort. I felt like saying ďmate itís 1979 technology. Theyíre all like that you dopey bastard.Ē Just shrugged my shoulders and didnít say anything and got it passed though
    But itís going to be fun to see if he can get the R going

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Steak View Post
    Yeah Iíve actually got two bikes to register - an XR650L and R. Iíll do the L first and just transfer the globe across to the R. Iíve come across some real fuckwits as inspectors. Once had a GS1000S inspected and the bloke reckoned it had a vibration of some sort. I felt like saying ďmate itís 1979 technology. Theyíre all like that you dopey bastard.Ē Just shrugged my shoulders and didnít say anything and got it passed though
    But itís going to be fun to see if he can get the R going

    to give him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he had every intention of passing it, but felt he was doing you a favour by passing on his observations that you may have missed?

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    I'm betting that the LED light would pass, provided that you don't try and get too cool a globe.

    work out what is acceptable (for example 4800K) and don't try and overcook it so its putting out a blue light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Steak View Post
    Yeah Iíve actually got two bikes to register - an XR650L and R. Iíll do the L first and just transfer the globe across to the R. Iíve come across some real fuckwits as inspectors. Once had a GS1000S inspected and the bloke reckoned it had a vibration of some sort. I felt like saying ďmate itís 1979 technology. Theyíre all like that you dopey bastard.Ē Just shrugged my shoulders and didnít say anything and got it passed though
    But itís going to be fun to see if he can get the R going
    Years ago had some issues with licencing when I had to take my old 79 F100 over the pits at Warwick, had one fuckwit that thought he knew better than the engineer that did the engineers report I was forced to get for the LPG tank that was so over engineered it was rediculous


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    to give him the benefit of the doubt, perhaps he had every intention of passing it, but felt he was doing you a favour by passing on his observations that you may have missed?

    It's possible but given my dealings with most people at the pits previously they have very little clue with anything non standard or MC's in general they just have to dribble some crap to make it sound like they know what they are doing May have changed since it was outsourced though?

    I'm betting that the LED light would pass, provided that you don't try and get too cool a globe.

    work out what is acceptable (for example 4800K) and don't try and overcook it so its putting out a blue light
    +1 My HID's are a cool white 5300K and never been an issue, the blue/purple ones actually put out less useable light anyway and are just wank
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwillia View Post
    its a $7 globe WHY would you waste everyones time?
    Devil's advocate here, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask.
    Chuck have considered halogen bulbs?
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    I grabbed a set of 7" rectangle headlights with halogen globes from a 4x4 shop under $40 pair Hilux upgrade.

    Bikes don't need the directional reflector offset cars do..ie; light beam is straight ahead due to lens design..

    I think they do led drop ins as well.. that meet ADR... just a suggestion.
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    The entire LED drop in unit is only about $45. Halogen bulbs probably arenít an option as itís a nonstandard bulb. Iíll just get it passed with standard unit then just do the LED upgrade. But part of the issue with the R is the current draw. As it doesnít have a battery I have to take that into account but as I understand it thatís the advantage of LEDs

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    OK

    I had a look on Thumper Talk... these dudes love to spend the $$$$ , there are a few good ideas tho'
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    Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed View Post
    OK

    I had a look on Thumper Talk... these dudes love to spend the $$$$ , there are a few good ideas tho'
    Thanks for the tip. Iíll look into it

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    Typically current draw is less with LED, but they are more susceptible to fluctuations in brightness due to current and voltage availability as they do not rely on heat to illuminate.

    A normal globe while still hot will continue to glow (dimmer) as available current and voltage drops off, an LED will simply flicker off and on once your supply drops below a certain point.

    Having changed the cabin lights in my Hilux to LED, even just a dirty door contact is enough to get them flickering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboR1 View Post
    Typically current draw is less with LED, but they are more susceptible to fluctuations in brightness due to current and voltage availability as they do not rely on heat to illuminate.

    A normal globe while still hot will continue to glow (dimmer) as available current and voltage drops off, an LED will simply flicker off and on once your supply drops below a certain point.

    Having changed the cabin lights in my Hilux to LED, even just a dirty door contact is enough to get them flickering.
    Good point on that, I use a torch with LED globes for work and as the batteries get low it will just cut out completely every so often whereas a halogen/incandescent globe will slowly fade in brightness

    Still LED globes are so damn cheap now that it would be worth trying them out given the improvement in light output you get
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    Certainly worth trying, just may get some unexpected results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboR1 View Post
    Certainly worth trying, just may get some unexpected results.

    Thanks for the info, but yeah, at $45 for the entire bloody unit itís wirth a shot

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