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    The Ultimate Definitive LAMS Thread

    Is LAMS here yet?

    YES


    Does anyone know when LAMS is actually coming?

    January 14th, 2013


    See here for more info - Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme (LAMS)

    New for a little FAQ section, I'll add to this from good questions in the thread.

    Q. What bike can I ride?
    A. Any 250cc bike except the sporty 2-strokes, plus this list - http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...proved_MC_.pdf

    Q. Which 250cc 2-strokes are excluded?
    A.
    • Aprila - RS250
    • Honda - NSR250
    • Kawasaki - KR250 (KR-1 and KR1s models)
    • Suzuki - RGV250
    • Yamaha - TZR250


    Q. But I have an R-E licence and one of those 2-stroke bikes, what can I do?
    A. You have 12 months to get your R class licence, otherwise you won't be able to ride it. If you want to keep riding on your R-E after Jan 14th 2014 you will need a LAMS complaint bike.

    Q. When I go for my R class test, will I be able to be sneaky and use a traditional learner school bike like a GS500?
    A. No, when you go for your big bike test the bike is not allowed to be LAMS compliant. So that means it needs to be over 660cc OR have more than 150kW/ton of power.

    Q. I already have my R-E licence, do I need to do anything to be able to ride a bike bigger than 250cc?
    A. No, as of 14/1 you can ride any LAMS bike you like


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    Some guy from the MRA reckons we will hear an announcement in January 2013, but I heard is was definitely happening on June 30, 2012.

    So time will tell, PSB will keep you updated, no need to stress.
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    so the guy from the MRA was right, and LAMS is here.

    I'll keep updating the first post with any relevant info

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    So I guess we can stop discussing it all the time now?? As in, all the info is there in black and white?

    Hoorah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barfridge View Post
    Q. What bike can I ride?
    A. Any 250cc bike except the sporty 2-strokes, plus this list - http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...pproved_MC.pdf
    The very first line of that document proves interesting:
    All motorcycles build before December 1960 are approved.

    As I read it that is irrespective of engine size!? So my old man who only has an R-E licence will be able to ride a Harley Panhead without needing to get an R class license now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Skitzo View Post
    The very first line of that document proves interesting:
    All motorcycles build before December 1960 are approved.

    As I read it that is irrespective of engine size!? So my old man who only has an R-E licence will be able to ride a Harley Panhead without needing to get an R class license now?
    Provided its under 660cc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aufitt View Post
    Provided its under 660cc.
    Ah ok my mistake, should have read both documents not just one...

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    Feel free to delete once answered. I can't find the information on any of the LAMS fact sheets, and their website doesn't mention this specifically anywhere I can find.

    Q: Will learner riders be able to ride unaccompanied/without a shadow on LAMS?

    A: ?

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    I'm still a tad confused.

    What's the process to upgrade to an unrestricted bike for the new LAMS peoples?

    Is it still - ride a LAMS bike for one year and then take another test on an unrestricted bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petro(v) View Post

    Is it still - ride a LAMS bike for one year and then take another test on an unrestricted bike?
    Yes. Same as it was before still practical assessment no automatic graduation, just the R bike has changed to be above 150kW/Tonne or greater than 660cc engine capacity
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    Quote Originally Posted by crowtribe View Post
    Feel free to delete once answered. I can't find the information on any of the LAMS fact sheets, and their website doesn't mention this specifically anywhere I can find.

    Q: Will learner riders be able to ride unaccompanied/without a shadow on LAMS?

    A: ?
    No - you will still need to adhere to current learning conditions, just the bike is the only change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowtribe View Post
    Feel free to delete once answered. I can't find the information on any of the LAMS fact sheets, and their website doesn't mention this specifically anywhere I can find.

    Q: Will learner riders be able to ride unaccompanied/without a shadow on LAMS?

    A: ?
    as a learner on a learners permit no, once they obtain the RE qualification yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petro(v) View Post
    I'm still a tad confused.

    What's the process to upgrade to an unrestricted bike for the new LAMS peoples?

    Is it still - ride a LAMS bike for one year and then take another test on an unrestricted bike?
    yes there is still a test to pass before full R class is obtained, i'm still trying to find confirmation but they were also supposedly removing the R class learners for RE riders loophole and you actually get stuck with a learner bike for a year.....
    Do you remember the good old days before the internet?

    when arguments were only entered into by the physically or intellectually able.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barfridge View Post
    Q. I already have my R-E licence, do I need to do anything to be able to ride a bike bigger than 250cc?
    A. No, as of 14/1 you can ride any LAMS bike you like
    So me having my R/E for a couple months now can go buy a bigger bike and legally ride it after the 14th jan 2013, and still go for my R class test before as long as its before 14 jan 2014?

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    Cheers Filbert.

    I'd say so danmac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danmac View Post
    So me having my R/E for a couple months now can go buy a bigger bike and legally ride it after the 14th jan 2013, and still go for my R class test before as long as its before 14 jan 2014?

    Yes, but heh you might as well stay on the bike you have, why throw more money away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danmac View Post
    So me having my R/E for a couple months now can go buy a bigger bike and legally ride it after the 14th jan 2013, and still go for my R class test before as long as its before 14 jan 2014?
    The 12 month grace period only applies to people riding one of they race replica 2-strokes on their R-E licence, so in your case ignore that date of Jan 2014

    After 14/1/2013 you can ride any LAMS bike you like

    You can go for your R class 12 months after you obtain your R-E, whatever date that was.
    For LAMS information and resources - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-156358/
    For LAMS discussion and to ask questions - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-143289/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneville View Post
    Yes, but heh you might as well stay on the bike you have, why throw more money away?
    that is my plan, i struggle enough on a 250

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    Quote Originally Posted by danmac View Post
    that is my plan, i struggle enough on a 250
    Improve the rider, not the bike.
    For LAMS information and resources - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-156358/
    For LAMS discussion and to ask questions - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-143289/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barfridge View Post
    Improve the rider, not the bike.
    you may have misunderstood, i meant i am going to stay on the 250, because the rider does need improving not the bike

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    sorry for misjudging you
    For LAMS information and resources - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-156358/
    For LAMS discussion and to ask questions - http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/foru...thread-143289/
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