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    Lowsiding is THE best way to get your knee down..fact!
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    "What affects handling"

    The knob on top!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo View Post
    You do realise that out of 10 people who read this, 2 will probably set their tyre pressure to 44psi and lowside on their first corner?
    Your assuming either they just light it and ride it i am guessing
    some will not know they are doing this , some will try ride through with the slide
    then there is the shit yourself and shut it off OMG i can fly type people . Spectacular to follow always.

    Back to the OP
    dam everything effects handling.
    Absolutely everything .
    From where you set your levers, rear sets , tyre choice weather conditions , road temp , surface conditions , fucking birds flying into your path , kangaroos. power delivery suspension , dampening , rebound bla bla bla

    your inputs .
    fucking everything

    its one thing i love about bikes, you can never get the perfect set up , you might on the day for the chosen road .
    but a different day on the same road , needs different set up
    different road , different set up.

    As a street jockey , find what works best for your type or style and roads you frequent in the conditions you most ride .

    thats it .

    biggest of all , learn road craft and learn to ride .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed View Post
    Lowsiding is THE best way to get your knee down..fact!
    Think you actually meant to say

    Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed View Post
    Lowsiding is THE fastest way to get your knee down..fact!
    It is a long way from the best way to do it
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    You don't even have to go FAST to lowside...sup..? So...? stil the best way.....unseriousness...

    What I actually meant to say IS exactly what I said....:-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed View Post
    You don't even have to go FAST to lowside...sup..? So...? stil the best way.....unseriousness...

    What I actually meant to say IS exactly what I said....:-)
    Has a 100% probability of getting knee down but any way that results in a bent bike will never be the BEST way.
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    OP=Gn250(-1 cos 1/2) 2-3.75e

    In other words...it's inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo View Post
    You do realise that out of 10 people who read this, 2 will probably set their tyre pressure to 44psi and lowside on their first corner?
    After reading past "grate off your chicken strips", 20% of forum goers that enter the thread are going to lowside because i wrote something on the internet?

    I'd call it a stretch, but it's not. You're just plain full of shit, mate.

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    My mate......Rode his Rocket 3 with 0 psi in rear tyre for 4 months..

    Only noticed when he TEC, pulled over to wait for me..

    Just did a toy run 280k's return...at posted limit...ahhahahhhahh...said "it seems to want to fall over with air in the tyre..????"

    That was Maxo's fault..too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill-2014 View Post
    Firstly, what do you use the bike for?commuting only,commuting and country rides?Track days?or a combination of everything?If it's just a commuter leave it stock keep a check on tyres tread and pressures, Brakes, keep chain lubed and correctly adjusted Fix any leaks and service regularly,for occasional country rides with twisties, if the bike handles them fine then leave it, however if you are looking at doing a lot of country riding with twisties etc it may be worth you looking at upgrading the suspension and possibly tyres,also get out there and ride as often as you can the more you ride it the more you will learn all it's handeling characteristics, you may find it handles better than you think,Also another thing try to match your tyres,
    its only a commuter and runaround to have fun on. GN250 tops out at 120 on a good flat road so sunday runs are not its thing. anything over 100 is a struggle really.
    but I am starting to consider upgrading to something I can go for runs on.
    Aircooled, 1 or 2 cylinder, twin shock rear is what I like so there are plenty models to look at. Hoping for an old Bonnie or possibly a SR500, XS650.
    then I will need to work out how they handle.

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    Dont forget rider weight makes a huge difference...one of the unanswerable questions I ask myself now is the recent weight loss I suffered, fixed unfortunately by discovering it was brought on by being a diabetic, may have been a contributing factor. The bike had lost rear traction on two previous occasions of course it could be I'm crap at corners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo View Post
    You do realise that out of 10 people who read this, 2 will probably set their tyre pressure to 44psi and lowside on their first corner?
    44psi won't make the bike lowside.

    Avon tyres as a manufacturer recommend 40psi across the board then you lower it to your preference.

    People leave tyre shops all the time with higher than preferred pressures and don't spontaneously crash.
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    when arguments were only entered into by the physically or intellectually able.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forunna View Post
    can someone give a brief synopsis of main issues/parts that effect handling and how?
    Yup, it's piss easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phildo View Post
    Yup, it's piss easy.



    oh, is that all it is?
    easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo View Post
    You do realise that out of 10 people who read this, 2 will probably set their tyre pressure to 44psi and lowside on their first corner?
    I'd go along with that... maybe not 2 out of 10 though.
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    Invest in a Rideday with MCRCWA, or Trackdayz,
    Learn how to ride faster and safer and all the adjustments to the bike will fall into place.
    Basically, everybody rides differently, what works for one rider will not necessarily work for another.
    The connotations are endless, the best riders can go fast on any old piece of shit.
    Start with a visit to Marty MOOSE though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filbert View Post
    44psi won't make the bike lowside.

    Avon tyres as a manufacturer recommend 40psi across the board then you lower it to your preference.

    People leave tyre shops all the time with higher than preferred pressures and don't spontaneously crash.
    Start with 44psi on the track and get your rubber up to temp. What would the psi be then? 50+?

    Ok, lowside on 1st corner is dramatic and FOS but I'll wager a bet it would not end well eventually.
    Its all good on Ducati's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxo View Post
    After reading past "grate off your chicken strips", 20% of forum goers that enter the thread are going to lowside because i wrote something on the internet?

    I'd call it a stretch, but it's not. You're just plain full of shit, mate.
    Fair nuff.

    But I'd still bet someone would remember parts of that post so well written and not remember that its a full troll post in a few months.

    But readers, bro science and internet researchers beware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BusaSteve View Post
    Dont forget rider weight makes a huge difference...one of the unanswerable questions I ask myself now is the recent weight loss I suffered, fixed unfortunately by discovering it was brought on by being a diabetic, may have been a contributing factor. The bike had lost rear traction on two previous occasions of course it could be I'm crap at corners.
    I manage to lose traction a fair bit on good tires and I weigh 107kg. Cunts just drip too much oil on the roads and it doesn't matter if you stay in the tire tracks because they are half the time texting and the middle of their car is over the inside tire track. Also I ride in the wet lots which doesn't help. Lucky the rear sliding never seems to do me much harm, just an "oh shit bring the bike a bit more upright" sort of warning lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo View Post
    Start with 44psi on the track and get your rubber up to temp. What would the psi be then? 50+?

    Ok, lowside on 1st corner is dramatic and FOS but I'll wager a bet it would not end well eventually.
    They'd probably stay around 44 psi and just scorch the shite out of the tread and cold tear from the smaller contact patch, you'd never get them up to a temp that could make use of a sticky compound

    You'll get a bigger pressure rise from lower psi and the tyre flexing and heating the entire carcass

    I used to run my pilot road 3 rear at 38 and end up at 40 but if I ran it at 30 it also ended up at 40 with symptoms of overheating
    Quote Originally Posted by fetus View Post
    I manage to lose traction a fair bit on good tires and I weigh 107kg. Cunts just drip too much oil on the roads and it doesn't matter if you stay in the tire tracks because they are half the time texting and the middle of their car is over the inside tire track. Also I ride in the wet lots which doesn't help. Lucky the rear sliding never seems to do me much harm, just an "oh shit bring the bike a bit more upright" sort of warning lol.
    Tyres can't be that good if you're losing traction on a hyo 250, unless your definition of good is full tread and you're still on the factory shinkos?

    something else at play there since the bike doesn't have the power or the brakes to break traction on its own in normal riding
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