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    Triumph set to take over Moto2 engine supply in 2018

    "British bike firm Triumph is set to take an incredible leap forward, when it signs a deal to build the control engine for the Moto2 championship from 2018. The Hinckley firm will take over from Honda and its CBR600RR engine, with an all-new 750cc triple engine – about to be launched next week in the new Street Triple naked roadbike".

    http://www.bikesportnews.com/news/ne...deal-for-moto2

    Best I can do to describe the issue is this.
    Normally it goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, shift, BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    But now it's a bit more like this
    BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-R-R-r-r-r-r-r-, shift

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    I'll sit back and wait patiently to see how this one plays out. Would love if it meant there'd be a 750 Moto 2 look-alike from them

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    Great for Triumph. And well done to them.

    To be honest I am not a fan of the controlled engine format but it seems I am in the minority and it is here to stay.
    One of the reasons I have slowly moved away from being an avid MotoGP fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMeanie View Post
    Great for Triumph. And well done to them.

    To be honest I am not a fan of the controlled engine format but it seems I am in the minority and it is here to stay.
    One of the reasons I have slowly moved away from being an avid MotoGP fan.
    But it's not MotoGP...

    It's a different class run on the same track on the same day...

    Whats wrong with a control motor class?

    It allows smaller back yard teams to be viable as chassis design and development is way cheaper that doing the whole bike...

    It allows people like Spondon and Harris to grow and thrive...

    Remember when Harris was running in 500GPs with a Yamaha motor?

    You don't see those little guys in MotoGP anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich... View Post
    But it's not MotoGP...

    It's a different class run on the same track on the same day...

    Whats wrong with a control motor class?

    It allows smaller back yard teams to be viable as chassis design and development is way cheaper that doing the whole bike...

    It allows people like Spondon and Harris to grow and thrive...

    Remember when Harris was running in 500GPs with a Yamaha motor?

    You don't see those little guys in MotoGP anymore...
    Ok. After I hit 'post' I knew I would get this reply.

    "...... why I have slowly moved away from the whole 'MotoGP Circus'.
    Yes. I still watch MotoGP, but Moto 2 and Moto 3 do nothing for me these days opposed to the olden days of the 250 GP bikes.

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    I just don't think the controlled engines belong in the Moto xx arena.
    Run it parallel but not as the baby MotoGP class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMeanie View Post
    I just don't think the controlled engines belong in the Moto xx arena.
    Run it parallel but not as the baby MotoGP class.
    So what should the feeder class be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich... View Post
    So what should the feeder class be?
    An open mid range class. 600, 750 or whatever they decide on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMeanie View Post
    An open mid range class. 600, 750 or whatever they decide on.
    So it becomes another "Manufacturer class" as the cost becomes unviable for a small backyard team...

    Basically a less powerful MotoGP class where Honda demands the class is X cc's that just so happens to mean they just cut a cylinder off their current motor...

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    I am anti control as I don't see it actually opens any doors for anyone long term.
    We have seen the stifling effects in F1 and what was once the 'Greatest Race in the World' the Aussie Super V8s. And they still refer to it as a touring car race. What a lot of crap!

    In the long term small developers don't survive regardless as other economic factors get in the way.

    The Motorsport Management seem to be determined to reduce all Motosport to a fiasco exactly like NASCAR.
    So controlled, the only difference between brands is a set of 3D adhesive transfers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich... View Post
    So it becomes another "Manufacturer class" as the cost becomes unviable for a small backyard team...

    Basically a less powerful MotoGP class where Honda demands the class is X cc's that just so happens to mean they just cut a cylinder off their current motor...
    Honda demands?
    That seems to be what happens anyway, controlled or not.
    And there lies the problem, money wins regardless.

    Would I like to see Harris using a Yamaha engine? Most definitely.
    Would I like to see Harris using a Kawasaki engine. Bloody oath!

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    anything that brings in new manufacturers to motogp is a good thing i rekon, honda obviously arent interested anymore because 600 sports sales tanked a while back. fair enough.
    I cant help it if your perceptions don't match my reality



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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMeanie View Post
    and what was once the 'Greatest Race in the World' the Aussie Super V8s. And they still refer to it as a touring car race. What a lot of crap!
    The Greatest Race in the World was about Aussie V8s up until the XU1, Sierra and GT-R. It became V8s again when they put control measures in place. But I get your point.

    Control engines just mean that teams spend millions on carbon fibre, titanium, and whatever aero allows them a competitive advantage. Which prices out new teams anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loud View Post
    The Greatest Race in the World was about Aussie V8s up until the XU1, Sierra and GT-R. It became V8s again when they put control measures in place. But I get your point.

    Control engines just mean that teams spend millions on carbon fibre, titanium, and whatever aero allows them a competitive advantage. Which prices out new teams anyway.
    Minis, Cortinas, Vauxhall and everything else could compete.
    If enough were built or imported they could run.

    And oddly now if I was to purchase a big engined HSV or Ford GT for the purpose I would be ineligible.
    The whole series is bullshit.
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    Ironic I would have to purchase a Ford 5.0lt based block to put in a Commodore to get close to being eligible.

    And now we are back to Moto 2.

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    Please people, let's not get sidetracked. Can we let the Triumph Daytona fanbois get back to jerking off about Triumphs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    Please people, let's not get sidetracked. Can we let the Triumph Daytona fanbois get back to jerking off about Triumphs?
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    So.

    Presumably, this means more power.
    That's good.

    Currently, the jump from moto3 to moto2 is doable, but the leap to GP is incomprehensibly large. It is where the riders are struggling to adapt.

    While in the 2T era we had 125 single, 250 twin, and 500 fours, that same progression doesnt seem to work with double capacity 4 strokes.

    Above anything else, that needs to be the focus of the moto2 evolution. Allowing riders a transition to GP.

    A chance for young blood to earn decent seats, and be in the mix quickly.
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    I came in here with the intention of doing some Triumph reliability bashing but truth be told, this could be good for them. Supplying for Moto2 might actually mean they'll have to produce something that doesn't fall to pieces every 5 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archie View Post
    I came in here with the intention of doing some Triumph reliability bashing but truth be told, this could be good for them. Supplying for Moto2 might actually mean they'll have to produce something that doesn't fall to pieces every 5 seconds.
    48,000 kms and still going strong..

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