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    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson

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    Never would've seen that coming. lol
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    Yeah ... plenty of reasons & you kinda wonder how the 'top brass' never saw it coming ... and Victory Perth opened up a couple of months ago with a new show room in Cannington .... whoops ....
    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
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    Quote Originally Posted by newjack66 View Post
    Yeah ... plenty of reasons & you kinda wonder how the 'top brass' never saw it coming ... and Victory Perth opened up a couple of months ago with a new show room in Cannington .... whoops ....
    Be an Indian showroom now.
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    True ... always sad to see a brand fall by the wayside though ...
    "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson

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    Good luck selling any remaining stock you have on the floor, or a second hand Victory if you have one.

    I'm not surprised really. They bikes were aimed at pinching sales from Harley Davidson, but as nice as they were they always just kept missing the styling mark and ran with the exact same chassis and style on their bikes for waaaay too long.

    I think they made some better model decision recently with the Highball, Gunner and Judge, but it was far too little too late.

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    I hear you ....

    I agonised over a 'Hard Ball' for ages & then a 'High Ball'. Rode both when in Melbourne (on holidays a while back) and really liked them.

    While 'thinking' about it and researching I went to a couple of Jap cruisers & now back to HD - again ...

    The 'price point' was the 'rub' for me .... Plus the Dealer Network was well ... average ...

    Since those two models much of it was same old ... with new paint and model name .... which seems to be what many manufacturers do to save costs ....
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    They'll just rebadge them as indians
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    A victory of sorts then...
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    I was just looking at the Victory 8 Ball the other day thinking how good it looked for 2017 with it's new wheels.

    But that curved stretched gas tank they've used since the inception of the brand really should have stayed back in the 1990's where it belongs, and for me as someone who like to customize bikes, it's very hard to change handlebars and risers with that gauge mounted where it is. Should have been tank mounted to clean up to the top triple trees.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BusaSteve View Post
    A victory of sorts then...
    Looks more like they've dragged defeat from the jaws of Victory I reckon
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    Noted. We'll check back on that one in three years
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    Each to their own they say.
    I have always found it difficult to use the words 'Motorcycle' and 'Cruiser' in the one sentence.

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    "I was just looking at the Victory 8 Ball the other day thinking how good it looked for 2017 with it's new wheels.

    But that curved stretched gas tank they've used since the inception of the brand really should have stayed back in the 1990's where it belongs, and for me as someone who like to customize bikes, it's very hard to change handlebars and risers with that gauge mounted where it is. Should have been tank mounted to clean up to the top triple trees."



    They could have always integrated the gauges & massaged the tanks for a cleaner look. But I remember at the time the launch spin was that with the gauges mounted where they were you didn't have to look down at them when riding.

    Personally I think 'they' (Victory) viewed at having tank mounted gauges too close to HD or other Jap Cruisers. The 106 freedom engine was IMHO good. It 'went' er ... does go like the clappers ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMeanie View Post
    I have always found it difficult to use the words 'Motorcycle' and 'Cruiser' in the one sentence.
    Funny I usually think that but I think of all the cruisers I've seen that is one of the nicer ones and I think the tank recess and the shiny fins against the black motor is part of that Plus that red is quite nice
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    Still sad to see them go, I had a ride on a 8-ball, I thought it was a reasonable effort [ for that sort of bike ], compared to the bloody dreadful Sportster I rode the same day. But i've never understood the "Harley" thing.

    Might get one cheap if your in that market I suppose.

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    Baby Boomers running out of money?
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    AHem!

    Was never gonna work in the current economic climate...

    Nice try but.....

    Make it a 500cc twin.. bobber ... recognisable as a motorcycle....just a smaller version....

    Build it they will come..

    From India...China....Et al..

    Fuckin EGO...Fucks a lot of good " brands. "

    srsly though....wtf..?
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    Saw this reply to a blog post on the Cyril Huze news site which pretty much sums it up

    As a former Victory Dealer (’99-’07), my heart goes out to all the Victory dealers and customers who stuck with the brand for all these years. Their investment, hard work, time and dedication to Victory will never be truly appreciated by former or current executives at Polaris or, their Board of Directors.

    Polaris is a corporate behemoth that missed the mark in supporting, consulting and working with the Victory dealer network, its loyal customer base and potential buyers. I can’t recall if there was ever a time where they they acted upon any advice or input given to them. Especially when it came down to the styling of their motorcycles.

    I remember being at the Victory dealer meeting when the Vision was first unveiled. Corporate generated a lot of hype and we, as dealers, were excited about the new model. We had to check in our phones, cameras, etc. before the unveiling. They even hired an AV company to create all this drama with music and lights. Finally, they pulled the tarp. All of us stood there stunned and silent…you could hear a pin drop. Finally, Mark Blackwell (VP, Victory) said, “Well come on, what do think?” After a long pause, the dealer next to me spoke up and said, “I thought we were selling motorcycles, not spaceships”.

    My point, there is a direct correlation between style, which creates curb appeal, and the sale of a motorcycle.

    90% of all new buyers consider the styling of a motorcycle as important as its features, performance or price when making their buying decision. From 2003 on, Victory’s reliability and performance was solid. However, their styling (especially the touring models) was always an issue for the majority of the customers that stepped into my dealership. They looked “too futuristic” had, “too much plastic” or, had particular styling cues that reminded them of a “Japanese bike”. It was a taste for a few of my customers but not for the many that walked my showroom floor.

    As dealers, we constantly brought up our styling concerns. However, it was an issue that Polaris would continually ignore. Their defense was, Victory was “The New Motorcycle Company” and, there styling was based around that – whatever “that” means.

    Instead, Polaris focused on stuffing units down our throats at the annual dealer meetings in order to increase revenue numbers on their P&L, please shareholders and make bonuses – despite our heavy inventory levels and lack of sales. Of the many dealer reps I had during my time with Victory, all of them agreed with the issues we were facing as dealers regarding the sell through of inventory and building the Victory brand. However, all of them claimed they couldn’t do anything about it. They were just “doing their jobs” and “how many units can we put you down for next year”.

    Working with dealers, listening to customers and understanding the wants and needs of potential buyers facilitates product development, styling and improvement along with increased sales and brand loyalty. It’s Business 101. Polaris missed the mark with Victory. Let’s hope and pray they don’t have the same disconnect with Indian.

    Fortunately, I’m not holding my breath…
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Skitzo View Post
    Saw this reply to a blog post on the Cyril Huze news site which pretty much sums it up
    Interesting. I've been taking a look at the VOG site (Victory Owners Group US) & service, listening to customers etc have been a common theme.

    The 2008 on Freedom 106 was well sorted, it came down to styling as the article writer suggests. As I've said in an earlier post the High Ball & Hard Ball were a more in the right direction as was the Octane.

    Can't help but feel it's been an opportunity lost.
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    Shame polaris didnt offer the brand up for sale before shitcanning it.
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