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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Dealer View Post
    Really depends what you're into. A small bike for example is useless for touring. The minute the wind picks up you're getting blown around.
    It can be done.. did 3-4 days on a vtr 250 as the only 250 in the group, Denmark, Pemberton, Nannup and more.

    Wasn't easy, but a good experience.



    relooking at the pic.. I couldn't wait to upgrade.. now I think.. damn I miss her!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZAZL View Post
    If you are worried about dropping a faired street bike, try a Suzuki DRZ400SM. Light, easy to flick around, adequate power and most importantly, don't break when you drop it.

    Economical, reliable, easy maintenance and my only LAMS bike. A keeper.

    When you want to learn to ride on loose surfaces like gravel, which you should, you'll quickly learn to control the thing when it is sliding around. They are made for it.
    This would be the most irresponsible post I have read on PSB.
    That particular model throws you on the ground for no reason at all.
    Decides to go in the opposite direction on gravel roads.
    They are a Death Trap.
    I had forgotten what gravel rash was for 42 years until I bought one of those buckets of shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMeanie View Post
    This would be the most irresponsible post I have read on PSB.
    That particular model throws you on the ground for no reason at all.
    Decides to go in the opposite direction on gravel roads.
    They are a Death Trap.
    I had forgotten what gravel rash was for 42 years until I bought one of those buckets of shit!
    Choice of tyres / tyre pressure..?
    Suspension set up..?
    Rider's off-road ability..?

    Nope! The particular model is a turd and throws you to the ground for no reason at all.

    Wake up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    It can be done.. did 3-4 days on a vtr 250 as the only 250 in the group, Denmark, Pemberton, Nannup and more.

    Wasn't easy, but a good experience.



    relooking at the pic.. I couldn't wait to upgrade.. now I think.. damn I miss her!
    Of course it can be done! Apart from Forrest Hwy between Mandurah and Bunbury there's no real hwy stretches where you're getting blasted by headwinds and crosswinds. You're also so busy enjoying the twisties and scenery that you don't realise the bike is buzzing off its tits at 120kph. I've done that route plenty of times with 250s tagging along no problem. But that route is only a little over 1000km, over 3 - 4 days that's a leisurely ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benzo View Post
    Choice of tyres / tyre pressure..?
    Suspension set up..?
    Rider's off-road ability..?

    Nope! The particular model is a turd and throws you to the ground for no reason at all.

    Wake up.

    Funnily enough, I've done 5000k's of largely NT dirt roads and tracks on one in the last 18 months.

    It's not a WR450 or an SXV but it is stable at WOT on rough dirt roads and easy to punt around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZAZL View Post
    Funnily enough, I've done 5000k's of largely NT dirt roads and tracks on one in the last 18 months.

    It's not a WR450 or an SXV but it is stable at WOT on rough dirt roads and easy to punt around.
    Yup. I literally sell bikes for a rival brand and I'll still happily attest to the fact that the DRZ (E, S, and SM) is more than capable on gravel, sand, rocks, ruts, the rest.

    If GreenMeanie can't handle a DRZ just on gravel then I don't think he's in any position to be making claims about how good a bike it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benzo View Post
    Yup. I literally sell bikes for a rival brand and I'll still happily attest to the fact that the DRZ (E, S, and SM) is more than capable on gravel, sand, rocks, ruts, the rest.

    If GreenMeanie can't handle a DRZ just on gravel then I don't think he's in any position to be making claims about how good a bike it is.
    LOl. But to be fair, it may be good for the average Joe but overweight geriatric mantids may get spat off the thing a lot.

    Now if you want a bike that loses the front end in dirt easily, try a 1984 XT600 Tenere. Ate dirt on that one constantly.

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    a SM on gravel is a bloody death trap! i rode down through the goat farm from the darlington lookout with the original dunlops on.. it went faster and more wildly out of control when i braked, but that's a pretty steep hill.
    on your average gravel track its no biggy just brake waaaaaay before a corner & easy on the throttle out.

    but it is true in the off road world bringing a DRZ400E on a bush ride is like a spoon at a gun fight, slow heavy tanks i bagged them out for years.. old mate rocked up on a DRZ "hope you have a hi-ab to pick it up when you fall over" "this is a ride not a louge room" etc

    the SM tho is different bike with its completely different suspension & swingarm, 150kg is light in the road world & with the 17's on good rubber sticks to the road no matter how hard you throw it in. you can not ride one like a road bike, counter lean.. if only they had a 6th gear, they are no WR or SXV but i bet my left nut it would keep going long after those to have called the ducati help line, sheeeet could prob tow them both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillz View Post
    they are no WR or SXV but i bet my left nut it would keep going long after those to have called the ducati help line
    Some DRZ's have been seen lapping SXV's on closed short circuits in recent times also


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    I've even slugged, pushed and dropped the bastard on shitty deep sand tracks with the original dunlops and still made it through. you're right about lean. High speed gravel is about anticipation, balance, getting the skill level to where the bike is floating under you but staying upright.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DQ View Post
    Some DRZ's have been seen lapping SXV's on closed short circuits in recent times also


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    Yep, I've seen one very skilled rider killing around Collie on a shitty DRZ a few times.
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