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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauer View Post
    Hmmm. If someone nicked my property I'd prefer the police try to establish ownership and reclaim it. I'm sure the majority of property owners would agree with such sentiment. Your solution seems devoid of such concern. Are you in insurance?
    I can't remember where I read the statistic, but there is a 1 in 8 chance that when you see/hear a hoon, it's stolen, and the rate was on the increase.

    The other issue the cops have when they start a pursuit is that when they run the plate thru the computer, it may not be reported stolen at the time. Many car's are not reported stolen until the next day when the owners wake up or get home.
    I heard of one FiFo worker who's car was stolen for 4 days before the police contacted him to tell him his car had been stolen and now resembled a Pretzel after being wrapped around a power pole during a pursuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Dealer View Post
    I have no doubt that in the future, every police car will have an autonomous drone on the roof.
    Suddenly, another reason to jam/deauth drones.

    ^ anyone thinking that's a good idea be aware, tampering with an aircraft in flight (yes, even a drone) is a fed offence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xor View Post
    Suddenly, another reason to jam/deauth drones.

    ^ anyone thinking that's a good idea be aware, tampering with an aircraft in flight (yes, even a drone) is a fed offence.
    As far as I was aware your average drone was not classified as an aircraft and didn't come under the FAA's authority
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    Quote Originally Posted by Para045 View Post
    As far as I was aware your average drone was not classified as an aircraft and didn't come under the FAA's authority
    Still an aircraft, just will have exclusion clauses against it. Try and fly one within 3nm of a controlled aerodrome's airspace and see what happens .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robw View Post
    Still an aircraft, just will have exclusion clauses against it. Try and fly one within 3nm of a controlled aerodrome's airspace and see what happens .
    Yeah looks like they updated it last year from a UAV to an RPA, saying that from looking at the regs the cops wouldn't be allowed to use drones anyway due to the restrictions on their use and that is even IF they were to get a licence to use one for commercial use
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    I can assure you that if you fly a UAV (drone if you want to use that terminology) around any Australian airport or controlled air space, the FAA couldn't give a rats.

    Do you mean CASA?
    Either way, I doubt CASA would care if you tampered with an unregistered UAV. Whether the cops would need to register a UAV? I doubt it has legal precidence, or even provision ...yet.

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    CASA certainly cared when I crashed my drone (mechanical failure) got an investigation and everything.


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    10w 5GHZ jammer will do it.
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    5GHZ is usually video, controller frequency is most often 2.4GHZ


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    Quote Originally Posted by GTSam View Post
    5GHZ is usually video, controller frequency is most often 2.4GHZ


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    Quote Originally Posted by xphread View Post
    I can assure you that if you fly a UAV (drone if you want to use that terminology) around any Australian airport or controlled air space, the FAA couldn't give a rats.

    Do you mean CASA?
    Either way, I doubt CASA would care if you tampered with an unregistered UAV.

    That's what I figured, not worth the effort to even investigate

    Whether the cops would need to register a UAV? I doubt it has legal precidence, or even provision ...yet.
    Not really my area, just had a look on the CASA website and from just the basics the cops would need to register it as it'd be for commercial use
    Then there is the issue of them having to make sure it's within line of sight and no closer than 30m to bystanders etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Para045 View Post
    Not really my area, just had a look on the CASA website and from just the basics the cops would need to register it as it'd be for commercial use
    If I remember correctly, it's deemed commercial if it's done for financial reward. Plus they would get some exemptions (most likely) just like the ones exempting them from (some) traffic rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hati View Post
    If I remember correctly, it's deemed commercial if it's done for financial reward.

    Yeah it does but the definition of financial reward on there is fairly basic to the point that someone getting paid wages to use it is deemed financial reward even if it's a 3rd party paying them Not sure on any exemtions for state Police under fed law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crobbo View Post
    There's plenty of gear that will do both.
    Most Quadracopters (apart from the super cheap ones) are self balancing and have GPS reference, so if they lose remote signal, they stay stable and lots return to the take off point and land themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xphread View Post
    Most Quadracopters (apart from the super cheap ones) are self balancing and have GPS reference, so if they lose remote signal, they stay stable and lots return to the take off point and land themselves.
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    I understand what frequency jamming is, and what is available..... what I am saying is that most UAVs/drones over the value of about $1000 will not crash using a jammer, you just wont be able to send new flight commands to them.
    If you are talking about thwarting police using them for pursuit etc.... chances are they would have the dollars to have a satalite data link and carry on. (and by using a jammer, it would be very easy for police to track that instead!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Para045 View Post
    Not really my area, just had a look on the CASA website and from just the basics the cops would need to register it as it'd be for commercial use
    Then there is the issue of them having to make sure it's within line of sight and no closer than 30m to bystanders etc
    I know operators need to be registered and accredited, if operating UAVs over 2kg for commercial purposes. (of which I doubt police operations would be classed under CASA definitions of commercial because its not a for-fee service)
    However, there is no registration required or available for drones themselves (unless you start to carry human cargo) - and there is usually no requirement to submit flight plans because you can't operate in controlled airspace.

    Quote Originally Posted by GTSam
    CASA certainly cared when I crashed my drone (mechanical failure) got an investigation and everything.
    Very interesting... was this because you were operating for commercial purposes - say over a populated area? (or were you operating in controlled airspace?)
    Because I have not heard of CASA getting involved in the remote controlled aircraft scene, except for where controlled airspace has been breached...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xphread View Post
    I understand what frequency jamming is, and what is available..... what I am saying is that most UAVs/drones over the value of about $1000 will not crash using a jammer, you just wont be able to send new flight commands to them.
    If you are talking about thwarting police using them for pursuit etc.... chances are they would have the dollars to have a satalite data link and carry on. (and by using a jammer, it would be very easy for police to track that instead!)
    I have a few dealings with a commercial drone company. Each of their units is in the ballpark of 30-40k.

    They don't go near mobile towers because of the interference.

    In a chase situation all you want is the drone to stop and rely on the internal gyros.

    Whoever's following you will go fuck what happened.

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