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    Quote Originally Posted by keys View Post
    I suppose one might be able to learn something on that one. Especially if the side wheels can be raised a lowered a bit to simulate the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agrid View Post
    I can't imagine that there is anyone in the world ever who actually learned how to wheelie on a wheelie machine. Its a myth. Just go ride.
    As per agrid, here's a wheelie machine someone prepared earlier:


    Not a realistic situation - massive rear sprocket, big heavy bike, no forward momentum etc. I seriously doubt anyone who didn't already know how to wheelie already could get it up of their own accord without a lot of time invested in practicing. Watching the owners of the machine get it up of their own accord looked like it involved a substantial effort, and bouncing the forks. While I got it to a suitable speed/rev range, the guys still helped lift the bike up; I didn't do it on my own. Once at balance point, yep I held it, but that's the easy part Not sure if you can/can't wheelie already but I felt no better skilled/prepared to wheelie after a few stints, though I'm sure having come so far you're not just going to shelve the project, and being your own wheelie machine, will be able to constantly piss the neighbours off practicing (I feel sorry for any bike on a wheelie machine - the poor forks and engine, which is why they're usually old, heavy and therefore, cheap bikes). Again if you can already wheelie, ignore comments about it not helping you learn to wheelie. If you can't, I'd think a wheelie bar would be more helpful/realistic.

    PS: no, I can't wheelie :/ I lack the testicular fortitude (and requisite skill).

    Edit: holy shit, that poor bike in flames
    Last edited by Kristy; 18-04-2017 at 08:38 PM.

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    Needs more simultaneous differential equations n stuff.
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    Fit a gearsack rack and fill it with bricks.

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    Seriously people.

    If you lack wheelie skills, just torque it up..

    Hop on a buddies 848 (or buy whowalks and pin 1st gear.)

    Just enough power to lift up, not enough to 12 oclock it (provided youre around 80kg)

    Back off slightly if it jumps up too high.

    Presto. Build from that.
    Its all good on Ducati's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo View Post
    Seriously people.

    If you lack wheelie skills, just torque it up..

    Hop on a buddies 848 (or buy whowalks and pin 1st gear.)

    Just enough power to lift up, not enough to 12 oclock it (provided youre around 80kg)

    Back off slightly if it jumps up too high.

    Presto. Build from that.
    Do you do wheelies at the same time you do 65 sec laps of Barbs in group 1 on your first track day ? Pics please
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    It may be coming down that will be interesting. Not so much lifting the front in a smooth controlled power roll on but rolling of when she's up. Any angle in both is going to be nastie with the beast on. Good luck mate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanoceros View Post
    Do you do wheelies at the same time you do 65 sec laps of Barbs in group 1 on your first track day ? Pics please
    You bored bro?

    It was sub 70s.
    Plenty of unintentional wheelies coming over the hill down to turn 7. Actually made me shit twice till I managed to find a gear to make it over smooth.

    I guess you the guy that putz around at the back of pack eh junior?
    Its all good on Ducati's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo View Post
    You bored bro?

    It was sub 70s.
    Plenty of unintentional wheelies coming over the hill down to turn 7. Actually made me shit twice till I managed to find a gear to make it over smooth.

    I guess you the guy that putz around at the back of pack eh junior?
    I can do sub 70s too mate, and most people (me included) get some front wheel air over the crest.. it really isn't particularly impressive. Where's the record of you doing sub 70s ? Like was a mate timing you, or did you have a timer ? Yeah mate, back of the pack. If you're doing sub 70s, why didn't you go into group 2/3 ?

    When are you coming out for a ride with me so you can show me how good you are ? I've got the rest of the week off I'll even borrow a GoPro to record your wheelies
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    A note for CM's. Don't be fucking girls. You can pass anything. Just fuckin' "Nail It". Take ya panties off you faggots.

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    *dick waving*
    In sterquiliniis invenitur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanoceros View Post
    I can do sub 70s too mate, and most people (me included) get some front wheel air over the crest.. it really isn't particularly impressive. Where's the record of you doing sub 70s ? Like was a mate timing you, or did you have a timer ? Yeah mate, back of the pack. If you're doing sub 70s, why didn't you go into group 2/3 ?

    When are you coming out for a ride with me so you can show me how good you are ? I've got the rest of the week off I'll even borrow a GoPro to record your wheelies
    Trolololol. If not, try yoga or sum shit.
    Its all good on Ducati's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gippo View Post
    Trolololol.
    Come for a ride Tony
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    It would be interesting to see some photos of the wheelie machine and some details of the build.
    I have just converted my DynoDynamics dyno so I can do wheelies.

    I have a pile of bikes (Not good at selling things). I am using my MT09 as the bike to test the setup.

    I was in Germany a couple of years back and went to the MotoGP with the stunt rider for the weekend, he also had a wheelie machine that people from the Ducati owners club could try.

    He said the wheelie machine was good for teaching people how to get the front up but not realistic once you get near the balance point.
    This is because the heavy drum provides no resistance once you get to a static speed, this is very different to a wheelie on the road where the bike is always subjected to load on the rear wheel.
    By using the DynoDynamics dyno I can make the dyno simulate the load on the road, this load is from the electronic brake not the inertia of a large steel drum. This means it will have realistic load all the way through the wheelie.
    I can even simulate going up a hill.
    The build is simple enough. I replaced the rear axle with a 20mm high tensile threaded rod, this rod sticks out each side and has an alloy bush on each side. The alloy bush is a loose fit inside the frame and is covered with grease.



    The frame is bolted down to the dyno and the front of the bike is free to lift.
    I can lift the front of the bike by hand but it will not lift under power.

    This caused some head scratching.

    I can add some more info on how this was solved if anyone is still following this thread.

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    more inertia/braking on the drum?
    "Life begins at the end of your comfort zone."


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    It would be cheaper to buy a trailbike and learn how to wheelie.
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    Agree with more brake on the drum, Slow the drum speed increase the friction forces, Should come straight up. You could always test in first with the old hesitate hit and lift.

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