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    SWM superdual

    HAs anyone had a ride or close inspection of the new SWM dirt bikes ? I'm considering one, either a 500, 650 or maybe the 21" front wheel version of the superdual.

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    Hey R160,

    Its in Italian but you get a pretty good look inside the swm factory. Some interesting bikes in design stage. Superdual looks the goods as far as a dirt ready tourer goes. Prices are pretty good too



    Something interesting to note 'supposedly, (could be forum fiction)' about the superdual is that the model we are getting is the euro3 engine. If right there is a euro4 coming, due either late this year or early next. Would be wise to ask a rep about it if they are open to discussion. Considering parts availability in the future if the engine has major updates as the euro3 will be a very short production run.
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    I hear the 21" front wheel model will have abs and be euro 4 when it arrives later this year, the 21 is the one id be keen on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrsism View Post

    Something interesting to note 'supposedly, (could be forum fiction)' about the superdual is that the model we are getting is the euro3 engine. If right there is a euro4 coming, due either late this year or early next. Would be wise to ask a rep about it if they are open to discussion. Considering parts availability in the future if the engine has major updates as the euro3 will be a very short production run.
    Most of the bikes that meet Euro 3 and then go on to be made Euro 4 compliant are restricted using mapping and exhaust, not internal engine parts. I think you'll find they'll be almost identical

    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2...-really-means/

    If you wanna know the meaning of Euro 3, Euro 4, etc etc
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    all those swm dirt bikes use the old husky engines TE510, TE630 Etc pre BMW era and pretty sure there is no plans to change them any time soon as R&D & tooling for new engines is expensive

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    Yep, same old husky factory, I'm keen to go sus them out at max moto for a closer look..

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    Yep point taken about the euro. Was thinking more along the lines of the smaller panigale line where they bumped the size. If thats the case and the 21 comes with euro 4 then youd be on a winner. Looks way better than either a klr or vstrom.

    Hows the old huskies for reliabilty? I don't know anyone thats used one. One of the guys I used to work with had te310 which had a few probs but I'm pretty sure it was a bmw era.



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    Ive heard the older MV owned husky were pretty good reliability wise and it dropped off during BMW ownership due to leaning on the motors more for more power. I'm not after a competition machine, also considering the 500 and 650

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    Holy thread revival Batman!

    Anyone heard about long term ownership or owned of these bikes for a while?

    Saw one the other day and they definitely look the part. Reviews on yt/online are rare and mostly by fanbois , so rather more interested in the PSB opinions...
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    Hey Recon,

    No experience with the bike other than an interest in anything with dirt capabilty. However was checking this thread the other day and was suprised about the front suspension.

    https://advrider.com/index.php?threa...037250/page-64

    Have a read yourself but p64 mentions the suspension was marzhocci when they first came out but are different now.

    Hopefully someone who has bought one will chime in as I would be interested to know about the setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xrsism View Post
    Hey Recon,

    No experience with the bike other than an interest in anything with dirt capabilty. However was checking this thread the other day and was suprised about the front suspension.

    https://advrider.com/index.php?threa...037250/page-64

    Have a read yourself but p64 mentions the suspension was marzhocci when they first came out but are different now.

    Hopefully someone who has bought one will chime in as I would be interested to know about the setup.
    Thanks for the linky #xrsism .

    Seems a bit of 'misleading' advertising as it was accepted that the bikes did arrive with Marzocchi legs. Am also still trying to decipher the cable/data issue accessing the ECU, where even the importer may not be able to access it , so maybe another skeleton in the closet.

    I was excited at the new range that is meant to land, especially the 650 Super dual and the RS 650r, but now I hope we are not seeing another example of 'you get what you pay for' with this brand instead...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrsism View Post
    Hey Recon,

    No experience with the bike other than an interest in anything with dirt capabilty. However was checking this thread the other day and was suprised about the front suspension.

    https://advrider.com/index.php?threa...037250/page-64

    Have a read yourself but p64 mentions the suspension was marzhocci when they first came out but are different now.

    Hopefully someone who has bought one will chime in as I would be interested to know about the setup.
    Thanks for the linky #xrsism.

    Seems a bit of 'misleading' advertising as it was accepted that the bikes did arrive with Marzocchi legs. Am also still trying to decipher the cable/data issue accessing the ECU, where even the importer may not be able to access it , so maybe another skeleton in the closet.

    I was excited at the new range that is meant to land, especially the 650 Super dual and the RS 650r, but now I hope we are not seeing another example of 'you get what you pay for' with this brand instead...
    Sventek, being a predominantly lazy fuck can you please purchase some for me, bring me the stuff, create something I want after you think of it for me then clean my house, wash my car, dog, bike breathe for me.
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    Yeah tricky one Recon. When it came out I was pretty stoked to have another choice with a pretty good price point. Reading that thread certainly gave me a bit of a cringe factor like someone just got kicked in the nuts and I would probably give it a few months to see what comes out of it.

    My guess is because its a euro bike that is reason why the ecu isnt able to be accessed. From what some euro riders have posted elsewhere, in some euro countries it is illegal to install aftermarket pipes n stuff. So if you cant modify then there is no reason to access the ecu to change the fuel mapping etc. Which sux balls living here.

    As for the suspenders Im pretty sure someone will come up with an option if there is a problem. One point that I reckon youll already be aware of is everyone has a different focus to their riding. Some of these owners may be going past the design of the bike so might be better to sit on one to guage if it is right. You could factor in a set of husky TE forks which are supposedly a straight fit.

    Theres also a few tasty bikes hitting soon. 790, the t7 and the crf450l if they ever get here.
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    ^^^ Cheers for your feedback.

    Was as clear and concise , which made my understanding of the ECU issue so much clearer.

    As an offroad rider, I am rated somewhere between crap and hopelessly inept, so any real pipe or suspension issues will have minimal effect on me personally, HOWEVER it will definitely not be terrific for resale once I need to get my hip replaced..

    Might do some fence sitting and watch what new models arrive this season prior to parking my arse on a seat. [maybe a KLX 4 fiddy with a huge set of lowering links. ]
    Sventek, being a predominantly lazy fuck can you please purchase some for me, bring me the stuff, create something I want after you think of it for me then clean my house, wash my car, dog, bike breathe for me.

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    Anyone know what's involved in removing the restriction on the super dual? Looking to purchase but not sure if it's a full ecu replacement

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    they all run lean also, i get calls all the time for people chasing new maps, but the ECU supplier (GET) say they having nothing & dont intend on doing anything anytime soon as its a OEM item so SWM have to initiate a fix

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