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    Yamaha TT600 Belgarda starter issues

    Question to PSB brains trust....
    My TT600 starter is not turning the motor over after sitting for two weeks.
    I went and bought a new battery and this did not solve the problem.
    When you push the starter button the stater relay goes 'click'....but the starter does not turn.

    I bridged the two terminals with a screw driver as in the pic below and still nothing...



    Would I be right in assuming that the problem is the starter motor itself?

    I had its road worthy done at a local stealership a few weeks back and we had to jump start it as we thought the battery was bad.
    They just put connected the two terminals straight to the starter motor and it started.....but it has not turned over since then.
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    Sounds like the solenoid has bad internals as it's switching but not letting the power through, which is demonstrated by the way the shop bypassed it

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    No, not likely solenoid failure as you say you bridged the two heavy terminals and it still didn't turn.

    Therefore likely the carbon brushes in motor are bad. Give it a good "tap" around the non drive end and see if it'll turn then. That would confirm the brushes worn out. No need for whole new motor, just brushes.

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    Jesus H Christ..

    Can you push it in gear ...and the motor turns...?
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    Im going to connect the old battery straight into the motor to see if that works......

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    Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed View Post
    Jesus H Christ..

    Can you push it in gear ...and the motor turns...?
    Yes, and when I say motor, I mean starter motor.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christo View Post
    Im going to connect the old battery straight into the motor to see if that works......

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    Yes, and when I say motor, I mean starter motor.....
    And???? Progress? Result?

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    OR...Kitchen Warehouse for some new brushes... ?
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    Fettle fettle fettle

    Turns out the problem was a bad earth.....
    I went and bought a cable from Mark @ Maddington MC wreckers and connected it directly from the negative to the starter motor, as per pic below.
    Seems OK for now.



    Now I just have to correct a fast idle.
    Cable slack is now right at about 3mm.
    Throttle stop is wound right back and still idles fast once warm.
    idle mixture must be lean......so once I finish making a special screwdriver, (see pic below) I will adjust it.
    There is not enough room to get a regular stubby screw driver in there.....

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    Ummmm Vac leak ?

    2 1/2 turns out .( to start with..)..get it hot reset as reqd... 2 - 2 1/4 is about right..?

    BTW should stall if throttle sop backed off...
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    Just cut the red wire....or is it the blue?...




    run some carb cleaner through it...the idle circuits may be blocked...leave it overnight or longer if possible.
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    Turns out the throttle stop was not backed off completely....
    Test ride tomorrow.
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    First ride

    Quick ride tonight to get fuel, all good.....



    Did someone say SUPERMOTO.....
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    Standard or converted forks Christo?

    We should put together a supermoto run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xrsism View Post
    Standard or converted forks Christo?

    We should put together a supermoto run.
    Standard Paioli USD forks....I have another set of hubs which will have 17s laced to them eventually.
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