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    BBWTK split systems

    We are looking to get 3 Daiken inverter splits for our new pad.

    Would PSB have any recommendations on who are good suppliers and installer's in Perth? we're happy to buy the splits from the installers or source our own. Whatever works so we're looked after with a good price and good workmanship.

    Also if there are any shockers out there we should avoid keen to hear about them too!

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    I have a mate who can defo help you out. I can pm details if you like!


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    Thought about a ducted system instead?
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    Cheshire Cat yes please, pm deffo welcome. Hey Loud we have some areas with exposed beams. The place does have ducted evap but that's going in the bin. Also in my experience ducted is allot less energy efficient than multiple splits.
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    Yep. current joint has ducted system, next place will have splits.

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    At least 80% (I am being kind there) of all domestic ducted systems are not installed correctly (including evaps) and are inefficient because of that reason.

    This is mainly due to price pressure.

    I do not like wall splits and would suggest a Cassette system in the main living area and splits in bedrooms if you must.

    If you are happy with splits hanging every where and have a tighter budget it is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBoof View Post
    Cheshire Cat yes please, pm deffo welcome. Hey Loud we have some areas with exposed beams. The place does have ducted evap but that's going in the bin. Also in my experience ducted is allot less energy efficient than multiple splits.
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    I'm not a fan of split systems. As chew said, a ducted system done properly is definitely the way to go but with everything it always comes down to money!!!

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    Refrigerant ducted costs a shitload to run even with a inverter and zone controls.
    Cheaper is splits to cool/heat a room
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    It also largley depends on the house design as well! Big open plan houses without doors waste a lot of the cooling especially with split systems trying to cool them all We have a ducted evap that goes to all the main rooms and doors on most rooms in the house so can close off areas that aren't being used as much or don't have vents like the laundry/bathrooms We dhave a split in the main lounge that goes through the dining into the kitchen that we use for really humid days but thankfully here in WA we don't have much of them Also get used ocasionally in winter for a little while when I get up for work at 4am
    Also we have good insulation under the roof sheeting, window tinting and high ceilings so even in the peak of summer if the house is kept closed up and the evap run on low the house stays very comfy
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    ^^ as above^^

    Insulation/Slab dimensions/roof vents.. etc etc

    Single phase A/C ... Beats 3 ph hands down.....( splits V ducted.) evap phht..!

    But....there are design limitations in all buildings.

    Reflect the heat in summer....absorb the heat in winter. Land on the concept for that and it's a $$$$$$ spinner.. forget thermal mass...ancient history...

    Temp. conversion is the new reality... ideas' anyone.. ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed View Post
    ^^ as above^^

    Insulation/Slab dimensions/roof vents.. etc etc

    Single phase A/C ... Beats 3 ph hands down.....( splits V ducted.) evap phht..!

    But....there are design limitations in all buildings.

    Reflect the heat in summer....absorb the heat in winter. Land on the concept for that and it's a $$$$$$ spinner.. forget thermal mass...ancient history...

    Temp. conversion is the new reality... ideas' anyone.. ???
    Sounds cool.
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    Knew there was an aircon thread floating around but couldn't find it so posted this in pub chat:
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    le pube,
    looking at the Dyson air multipliers and got me thinking about reverse cycle air con. What's a likely ballpark installation cost? I know nothing about what type/size I need but installation cost will determine if I consider it further. I do have ducted evap air cooling so the other option is reverse cycle but haven't really heard much about them i.e. not effective? Cost of the air multipliers is about 50c/hr, is air con stupidly expensive/hr? (yes, size/area dependent).
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    2. Air con installation costs
    3. Reverse cycle ducted air cooling (is there such a thing?)

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    1. Fan v reverse cycle..yeh ..nah
    2.costs depend on the system/size/area/layout/requirements.
    3.Sparky...and fitter of system.. so 2 x costs.. that is unless you fly under the radar.. legalities aside
    4. yup.....
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    OK so considering going down the air con path. Anyone know relative risks of installing in asbestos walls in terms of airborne fibres? Installers would no doubt be well versed in this? Don't want some cowboy.
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    OK so given this thread is about installers, figure I'll post my experience with an installer. I spoke to a few people about installation into an asbestos wall. I ended up going with Platinum Power & Air - he took the time to explain/answer questions and had the best/most thorough/safe methodology IMO. Also installed a bathroom light/heat/fan while he was there. Standard air con installation costs (non asbestos) are about the same across companies. The asbestos install cost between $100 and $220 extra. Platinum Power & Air cost $220 extra but was happy with the online reviews (they were all good), his professionalism and methodology and so for peace of mind, was happy to pay a bit extra.

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