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    What does the future hold for bike racing at Barbagallo?

    Independent Safety Audit for Barbagallo Almost Approved ... at last!
    https://www.perthstreetbikes.com/for...d.php?t=183142

    I believe that the above thread is now redundant, and suggest that a new thread for continued debate is appropriate.
    It's now obvious that things have not gone as many might have predicted. The safety audit may well have been almost approved but at present it's been discredited and questioned and only accepted by it's backers and supporters.

    The above thread has at times gone off on a tangent as well as becoming quite heated, but that's OK given the passion many of us have for the sport.
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    I'm pretty sure this subject has been covered extensively in that thread (and other threads). What is the fucking point of another thread to discuss the same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VULGR View Post
    I'm pretty sure this subject has been covered extensively in that thread (and other threads). What is the fucking point of another thread to discuss the same thing?
    I guess my point is that Scott has not been participating in this debate of late so I felt that by restarting the debate elsewhere his thread might be able to drift off into the ether.
    I think this whole matter is painful enough for him without the inferences which question his actions and motivation.
    The moderators are more than welcome to delete this thread if they see fit.
    I somehow think that the subject will remain alive for some time to come and will continue to do so even after any official announcements from the organisations involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Trident View Post
    The safety audit may well have been almost approved but at present it's been discredited and questioned and only accepted by it's backers and supporters.

    FALSE. The report has been supported by subsequent reports.


    Please supply evidence and citations of how it has been discredited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady7/8 View Post
    FALSE. The report has been supported by subsequent reports.


    Please supply evidence and citations of how it has been discredited.
    That's the impression I got from reading threads and posts here.
    Discredited and questioned by some of the denizens of PSB. I really can't be bothered proving my opinion.
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    I'm happy to provide an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Trident View Post
    That's the impression I got from reading threads and posts here.
    Discredited and questioned by some of the denizens of PSB. I really can't be bothered proving my opinion.
    Discredited by nobodies with no qualifications, only a bee in their bonnet and their toys thrown firmly out of the cot. Nothing more than a self flagellating circle jerk.

    Pretty worthless opinion if it doesn't warrant defending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Trident View Post
    https://www.perthstreetbikes.com/for...d.php?t=183142

    I believe that the above thread is now redundant, and suggest that a new thread for continued debate is appropriate.
    It's now obvious that things have not gone as many might have predicted. The safety audit may well have been almost approved but at present it's been discredited and questioned and only accepted by it's backers and supporters.

    The above thread has at times gone off on a tangent as well as becoming quite heated, but that's OK given the passion many of us have for the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady7/8 View Post
    Discredited by nobodies with no qualifications, only a bee in their bonnet and their toys thrown firmly out of the cot. Nothing more than a self flagellating circle jerk.

    Pretty worthless opinion if it doesn't warrant defending.
    With comments like that you obviously are not affected by the closure of the track yet you like to spruke your wothless opinion in a derogatory way. I see you really did work in local government you are suited to that environment

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonn View Post
    With comments like that you obviously are not affected by the closure of the track yet you like to spruke your wothless opinion in a derogatory way. I see you really did work in local government you are suited to that environment
    How's that circle jerk cumming along Antonn? Has it helped get you back on track?

    The derogation has come firmly from your team and your mates tasking themselves to an achievable task. You and you mates are bullies. Trying to force your way back onto Barbs at any cost. Toys ejected firmly from the pram.

    I don't understand how you can be so blind to your belief that you should be able to ride at a track deemed safe by an actual qualified expert. I can clearly see your opinion is uneducated.
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    wothless Shady7/8 just fucking wothless


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady7/8 View Post
    How's that circle jerk cumming along Antonn? Has it helped get you back on track?

    The derogation has come firmly from your team and your mates tasking themselves to an achievable task. You and you mates are bullies. Trying to force your way back onto Barbs at any cost. Toys ejected firmly from the pram.

    I don't understand how you can be so blind to your belief that you should be able to ride at a track deemed safe by an actual qualified expert. I can clearly see your opinion is uneducated.
    My team??? Didn't realize this was a team event! What is happening is that there are people on here that believe that bikes returning to Barbagallo will somehow stop a new track from being built. And just because I disagree with a so called expert doesn't make me uneducated i don't agree with some of halls findings and so i have questioned them and i still believe that they don't stack up, when he suggests that the speed through the esses should be limited to 30kmh he is clearly not the right person for the job, ffs it's a racetrack not roadworks. So you are welcome to your opinion but you don't race and it doesn't affect you so i am not sure why you even bother

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonn View Post
    My team??? Didn't realize this was a team event! What is happening is that there are people on here that believe that bikes returning to Barbagallo will somehow stop a new track from being built. And just because I disagree with a so called expert doesn't make me uneducated i don't agree with some of halls findings and so i have questioned them and i still believe that they don't stack up, when he suggests that the speed through the esses should be limited to 30kmh he is clearly not the right person for the job, ffs it's a racetrack not roadworks. So you are welcome to your opinion but you don't race and it doesn't affect you so i am not sure why you even bother
    Perhaps it's not perfect (but we're not qualified to make that decision), but so far no one has legitimately challenged it. The subsequent report appears to support the original... Seems like the original must be on the money then.


    And actually it does affect me if I wish to take one of my bikes to Barbs. I prefer Collie, but sometimes you just want to get out on the bike right? Yes, I have ridden Barbs before. I'd prefer something a little less speedwayish with so may rights and so few lefts.
    Besides my racing or lack of at Barbs is irrelevant to the discussion.

    Simply put you can't ride there right now. There is no arguing that point, and all of us yelling and abusing each other. Until such time as someone qualified can prove the Hall report is not credible enough or parts have flaws then it stands in full, and no one with a sound mind would dare to argue against it and dare put bikes on track. Yet all I see is toys thrown from the pram, and any attempt to create progress is met with childish derision, and petulant attempts to undermine and destroy. Why is it so hard for people to let change and progress happen in this Perth?

    I don't know what Potato is on about either...??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady7/8 View Post
    Perhaps it's not perfect (but we're not qualified to make that decision), but so far no one has legitimately challenged it. The subsequent report appears to support the original... Seems like the original must be on the money then.


    And actually it does affect me if I wish to take one of my bikes to Barbs. I prefer Collie, but sometimes you just want to get out on the bike right? Yes, I have ridden Barbs before. I'd prefer something a little less speedwayish with so may rights and so few lefts.
    Besides my racing or lack of at Barbs is irrelevant to the discussion.

    Simply put you can't ride there right now. There is no arguing that point, and all of us yelling and abusing each other. Until such time as someone qualified can prove the Hall report is not credible enough or parts have flaws then it stands in full, and no one with a sound mind would dare to argue against it and dare put bikes on track. Yet all I see is toys thrown from the pram, and any attempt to create progress is met with childish derision, and petulant attempts to undermine and destroy. Why is it so hard for people to let change and progress happen in this Perth?

    I don't know what Potato is on about either...??
    There are no toys thrown from my pram, the truth is i have raced at barbagallo in the early 80's and again in 2011 until last year but due to circumstances i can no longer race so i don't have a hidden agenda other than thefa t i don't want to see a sport i care very much about disappear from this state. Our governing body in mwa and ma are a clusterfuck and have seriously dropped the ball on this. The subsequent report you refer to was organized by MA and was just a visual inspection not a full report with data collected. The original report waz done on my bike and i can tell you the figures don't add up because a large percentage was added to future proof it but without any industry consultation this is just guesswork. That is my opinion a d i will continue to push for another full report to be completed based on the fact it is a racetrack not a public road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antonn View Post
    There are no toys thrown from my pram, the truth is i have raced at barbagallo in the early 80's and again in 2011 until last year but due to circumstances i can no longer race so i don't have a hidden agenda other than thefa t i don't want to see a sport i care very much about disappear from this state. Our governing body in mwa and ma are a clusterfuck and have seriously dropped the ball on this. The subsequent report you refer to was organized by MA and was just a visual inspection not a full report with data collected. The original report waz done on my bike and i can tell you the figures don't add up because a large percentage was added to future proof it but without any industry consultation this is just guesswork. That is my opinion a d i will continue to push for another full report to be completed based on the fact it is a racetrack not a public road.
    I pretty much agree with you on everything you've said there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady7/8 View Post
    Pretty worthless opinion if it doesn't warrant defending.
    My opinion is just that, my opinion and no one else's, some are going to like/agree with it some are going to disagree with it. IIWII and I have little motivation to spend time and energy defending it.
    Some might come up with some insight or reasoning which will make me change my opinion but I really don't give flying fuck what others think of my opinion. So with all that in mind yours or anybody's opinion of my opinion matters not one iota to me.

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    What does the future hold for bike racing at Barbagallo?

    It will be years now.... I'm just going to do the collie thing now. May just go speedway racing.... Either way sad to see barbs go. It is gone as a bike venue as now no one with experience will sign off on bikes returning. Have had a ma licence since 2011 and have raced, crashed, and volunteered when ever possible. But time for a change.... Mal 187


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    Did you get the emails from MCRC last week and today?

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