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    Use a flipper or game over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carltonblues View Post
    Use a flipper or game over.
    Because that fine is only $1000?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZAZL View Post
    Because that fine is only $1000?
    No demerits, if that's any consolation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alternate View Post
    Pretty sure a handheld laser reports when it is being jammed; I wouldn't be surprised if existing cameras are retrofitted (if they can't detect already) with the ability to detect which vehicle is jamming a signal and take a snapshot anyway. Especially if they're going to make over a grand from it.
    They could possibly have the cameras take a pic when being jammed but they'd still need to be able to prove it was "your" vehicle that was jamming the signal which would be hard to do I'd say given the nature of the band they are operating in
    Decent lawyer would tear their case apart and given how much the penalty is now would be worth the fee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanoceros View Post
    No demerits, if that's any consolation
    There's a bonus.

    What's to stop a cop with half a brain issuing a $1000 infringement for obscuring your plate and another ticket for $1200 and 7 points for fitting a device that interferes with the operation of a speed measuring device.

    The purpose of the camera is to identify the rider by taking a picture of the plate and vehicle. A flipper is a device fitted so the rider can stop the camera taking a picture of the plate.

    As to the Para045 comment, Yes, you will not be identified if the camera cannot photo your plate.

    That's not how it works. It will happen at a roadside random stop. Or when a police car is sitting behind you at the lights and the sensors are seen.

    Or how about when the dilligent Harold Scruby's of the world call crimestoppers to report the sensors on the back of that hoon neighbour's 1098.
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    What’s to stop the cop ? Your right hand and a dose of WOT
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    But if I see the speed camera, and slow down before it that would be abstracted to say using a detector to detect the speed camera and slow down before it.
    If the detector is illegal, would that make my eyes illegal as well? I need to know these things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TealNinja View Post
    But if I see the speed camera, and slow down before it that would be abstracted to say using a detector to detect the speed camera and slow down before it.
    If the detector is illegal, would that make my eyes illegal as well? I need to know these things!
    There's no law against detecting, it's against interfering with it. That is, interfering with the camera's operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pnork View Post
    There's no law against detecting, it's against interfering with it. That is, interfering with the camera's operation.
    Like not taking the route with a heavy camera presence...or is that too simple.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZAZL View Post
    As to the Para045 comment, Yes, you will not be identified if the camera cannot photo your plate.

    That's not how it works. It will happen at a roadside random stop. Or when a police car is sitting behind you at the lights and the sensors are seen.
    Oh yeah I'm fully aware there is still a risk of getting stopped and pinged but given there are less and less actual cops actually out and about as they appear to be outsourcing more to cameras then obviously the risk isn't as high as it once may have been The way the articles have been written it's like as soon as you go out you will be pulled over TBH the last time I actually went through a speed stop/RBT etc must be over 3 years Like anything I guess it's up to the individual to weigh u the advantages vs the risks much like evading the popo or giving it a squirt on a country road


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    Like not taking the route with a heavy camera presence...or is that too simple.?
    I do that all the time, sometimes it may take a little longer but less likely to get stung by the revenue raisers
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    Don't know about you guys, but the past week I've gone through three seperate speed checks with police using handhelds.
    Previous to those I don't remember the last time, it's been that long.

    Marking vehicles with jammers, perhaps? Or should I take my tin foil hat off?

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    Had a thought yesterday... seems like they’ve got the opportunity to ping bikes for lanesplitting up to the lights or filtering on the freeways in heavy traffic near the speed cameras...


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    Quote Originally Posted by GTSam View Post
    Had a thought yesterday... seems like they’ve got the opportunity to ping bikes for lanesplitting up to the lights or filtering on the freeways in heavy traffic near the speed cameras...


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    How would that interfere with the function of the cameras though? (Assuming no jammer present)
    I still split/filter if traffic is crappy whether there's a camera nearby or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIKYSA View Post
    How would that interfere with the function of the cameras though? (Assuming no jammer present)
    I still split/filter if traffic is crappy whether there's a camera nearby or not

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    The new law says if you break the road positioning laws (following to close, crossing a line, bla,bla,bla) within 100m of a camera you are deemed to have also been trying to avoid the camera and so you get the avoiding the camera penalty as well.
    Fun eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIKYSA View Post
    How would that interfere with the function of the cameras though? (Assuming no jammer present)
    I still split/filter if traffic is crappy whether there's a camera nearby or not

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    What MikeL just said, there’s more than just jammers being targeted in this change of legislation.

    I can foresee this potentially being an issue if the TEG reads into these changes the wrong way


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    Meh if you don’t break the speed limit then the camera can’t tell what your doing and wouldn’t be avoiding it.
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    Speed camera law changes....

    Quote Originally Posted by Halo_2 View Post
    Meh if you don’t break the speed limit then the camera can’t tell what your doing can it
    But the cops don’t care about you actually speeding... they just care about how much money they’ll make from it.

    Basically the camera won’t get you but if you happen to split and a cop in their car/bike sees you and decides you did it was within 100m of the camera... $$$


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    But you could challenge in court your not avoiding the camera, if you were splitting at 200ks then sure your taking a risk that the camera won’t pick you up in the photo.
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    the rules here that are villianising speeding as a source of easy revenue are becoming a joke. An open ended, subject to abuse joke.

    Effectively if you're splitting you can loose your licence for not even noticing the camera that they've hidden in the bushes? An extreme what if but it seems like the potential is there?

    Is there anywhere that explicitly says detectors aren't included? If tailgating is ticketworthy then I don't see how riding with a detector isn't... and if it still is, I'm sure it won't be for long.

    It's a joke, I simply don't trust the cops on the street enough to not feel very worried about some of the driver based legislation happening this year..

    I'm sure a conviction won't be as easy as the media make out, but still.. At this rate how long will it be before the cops can confiscate a vehicle because they 'beleive it might have jammers hidden on it'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL View Post
    The new law says if you break the road positioning laws (following to close, crossing a line, bla,bla,bla) within 100m of a camera you are deemed to have also been trying to avoid the camera and so you get the avoiding the camera penalty as well.
    Fun eh?
    So if I slowly (ie well under the speed limit) filter at a red light with a camera, don't cross the white line, I could still be pinged by a cop having a bad day? For 1200 bucks and 7 points?

    That sounds frickin ridiculous.

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