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    The TAC ads in VIC are usually good, always instructive with a positive message.
    RSC should just pay to use these...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazon View Post
    "Last year, 60% of the 40 motorcycle fatalities on WA roads were [U]single vehicle crashes
    It would be interesting to know how many of that 60% had some involvement from a 2nd party though ie someone cutting them off/pulling out on them, animals running in front, bad road conditions etc? Unless another vehicle is actually involved in the accident directly it's put down as a single vehicle accident in the same way they put down speed as a factor if they can't find any other cause or they call it alcohol related if there is alcohol in the vehicle even if it hasn't been consumed by the person
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    I think the problem with this ad is it just comes off as another person telling us to be safe because 'motorbikes are dangerous'. I get that plenty from pretty much everyone around me who doesn't ride and I would place a bet I wouldn't be the only one on this forum who gets this. Due to this the ads message fails to resonate with me, its another thing telling me the same thing that I have already been told a million times before and will be told another million.

    As it has been identified the ad feels like a bunch of people whom don't ride, or have a passion for bikes, telling people who do ride that it is dangerous without considering why that might be the case. I mean a growing rock that takes out a 'speeding' rider going in a straight line? To us riders we just think WTF is that about? They might be trying to use symbolism as Para045 said where small things are more dangerous and 'grow' with speed but I feel this is far to abstract for the average viewer, rider or not. The danger presented in this ad just doesn't feel real so riders dismiss it. Non-riders just use it to confirm bikes are bad mmmkay.

    The ad's linked above by Blazon are far better. They're not condescending, they entertain, teach, and get the point across. Non-riders and riders can both enjoy them. If you must show the dangerous side I think the below ad handles it much better. Shows it can be dangerous and to pull your head in with a 'realistic' scenario if you were to really be pushing the limit on the road:

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    The timing of this advertising by the rscwa is spot on, regardless how they do it.
    There are plenty of advanced training schools that I am still keen to explore,to better my riding skills.
    There are so many great riders out there that have gone out of thier way to chat to me about this road or that road.
    I've seen some horrific surfing accidents an deaths when people take huge risks.
    I've had idiots take on margs bombie,a places in the southern ocean. With the wrong board, the have bloodly on idea about the conditions.an yep they spend more time trying to find the right equipment when they clearly don't have the experience to match what their buying.
    Sounds familiar? Motorcycles are no different as I keep reminding myself every time I ride.
    An a big thanks to those blokes that have helped me.

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    The ad by Kevin McGee is very good.
    Tp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazon View Post
    I heard someone on ABC radio talking about this new advertising campaign.


    I understand the context and there is some good information on their website.

    https://www.rsc.wa.gov.au/Your-Safet.../Motorcyclists


    "Last year, 60% of the 40 motorcycle fatalities on WA roads were single vehicle crashes."


    "We know that men aged 30 to 49 are over-represented in motorcycle fatalities and serious injuries in WA....54% of rider fatalities"



    The commercial however is terrible as it doesn't convey any of this info.
    Of course they are single vehicle crashes. When you go to your insurer after an incident and you have to put down 'single vehicle accident' or 'at fault' because some dick pulled out and you crashed in an attempt to avoid them.

    I've had 3 road crashes and only 1 was 100% me (and truly a single vehicle accident), the other 2 all had other cars/trucks involved but when it comes claim time, it is still a single vehicle accident because I didn't hit them. I think for insurance sake, it's almost better I just slow down enough to make enough contact that they can properly be deemed at fault...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeBloke View Post
    I think for insurance sake, it's almost better I just slow down enough to make enough contact that they can properly be deemed at fault...
    +1 I've had instances over the years in a car where someone has changed lanes without looking and i've had to swerve off the side of the road to avoid a collision, scary but usually not serious in a car/truck but on a bike you're sliding down the side of the road while the fuckstick that caused it carries on oblivious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazon View Post


    "Last year, 60% of the 40 motorcycle fatalities on WA roads were single vehicle crashes."


    "We know that men aged 30 to 49 are over-represented in motorcycle fatalities and serious injuries in WA....54% of rider fatalities"



    The commercial however is terrible as it doesn't convey any of this info.
    Nope it doesn't. If it was trying to convey the message based on those statistics, then it would have been filmed on a country road where the bulk of single motorcycle accidents occur.

    Suburbian accidents are usually multi vehicle, where the dimwits pull out in front off the motorcycles or run up your backside while drooling over their iLobotomy's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone Cat View Post
    Nope it doesn't. If it was trying to convey the message based on those statistics, then it would have been filmed on a country road where the bulk of single motorcycle accidents occur.

    Suburbian accidents are usually multi vehicle, where the dimwits pull out in front off the motorcycles or run up your backside while drooling over their iLobotomy's.
    link?

    Possibly,
    or speed/ alcohol/ drugs/ hero crashed ....were a factor or combination these factors.

    Where the single accidents occurred may or may not be relevant so its important provide a link to support your claims.
    otherwise its just speculation.

    Whatever your opinion most people agree that 40 fatalities is too high and more needs to be done to improve
    riders roadcraft.

    Cagers ads may help but realistically it requires wholesale changes to Driver education toward motorcycles.
    Given the WA Govt's debt situation...this will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillz View Post
    Get out of my way, im a motorcyclist! Beep beep... is how it should have gone lol

    Respect your right to ride like this and even post the pic but you portray us as they see us.
    Motorcycling is all about a low profile in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carltonblues View Post
    Respect your right to ride like this and even post the pic but you portray us as they see us.
    Motorcycling is all about a low profile in my view.
    That's not the tunnel - 2 lanes not 3, different lighting... and is a gixxer not a kwaka. So my guess is that's not Hillz...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy View Post
    That's not the tunnel - 2 lanes not 3, different lighting... and is a gixxer not a kwaka. So my guess is that's not Hillz...?
    Must be Friday. The only 'us' in this thread being a couple of clones of a clone of a certain bunbury 'rider'.

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    no it was just a random pic for fun, imagine posting a pic going that fast through the tunnel! facebook groups & today tonight would have a field day... more attention and outrage than rape and murder..

    riders are always going to ride fast and eat up traffic like they are passing lappers in a race...

    if they don't want us doing reckless things why sell bikes that break the national speed limit in 1st? bunch of enablers lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazon View Post
    link?

    Possibly,
    or speed/ alcohol/ drugs/ hero crashed ....were a factor or combination these factors.

    Where the single accidents occurred may or may not be relevant so its important provide a link to support your claims.
    otherwise its just speculation.

    Whatever your opinion most people agree that 40 fatalities is too high and more needs to be done to improve
    riders roadcraft.

    Cagers ads may help but realistically it requires wholesale changes to Driver education toward motorcycles.
    Given the WA Govt's debt situation...this will never happen.
    Here is a motorcycle specific report for recommended action and contains statistics relative to motorcycles produced for western Australia.

    Well worth a read.

    https://www.rsc.wa.gov.au/RSC/media/...ety-review.pdf

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    I notice the report warns " to not ride a borrowed motorcycle, as you may be killed by the lack of familiarity..."

    Good read.... sadly no action will be taken "...since an end result due to the improved safety of riders will result in less revenue being raised to further prevent road trauma..." sic....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Peel View Post
    The ad by Kevin McGee is very good.
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    Except it's Kevin McGee, and listening to his voice is as painful as watching a loved one drown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazon View Post
    Whatever your opinion most people agree that 40 fatalities is too high and more needs to be done to improve
    riders roadcraft.
    Yeah maybe, but some thought 6 fatalities were too high on a race track that could provide that training.

    Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cone Cat View Post
    At least they are considering `bringing WA into alignment with the other states` by making moped riders actually have a licence (and therefore having training) before getting on a bike with their car licence.

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    Is it possible the main aim of all these ads is to allow the incumbent government to give big bags of your money to media organisations so that media organisations act more favourably towards government?

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    Had a quick look at it this arvo and it looks to be more of the same rubbish IMO, higher enforcement with more specialised speed cameras, special squads to target riders and higher penalties, more restrictions on what riders can do and when, more of a push towards eventually making Hi-Vis compulsory and a proposal to have daytime running lights even though they aren't mandated by ADR's and we already have most bikes with headlights on at all times

    Increased record keeping on MC's, introduction of demerits on low level speeding etc, forcing people who haven't ridden a MC for a long time to undergo retraining (though how the fuck they'll know how much riding someone has done or hasn't done) and restrict riders from riding MC's they aren't familiar with which asks the question how will anyone ever be able to upgrade given they'll suddenly be on an unfamiliar bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIKYSA View Post
    Invest the money saved by not airing these useless fucking ads into safer road infrastructure (Indian Ocean Drive, anyone?). Fucking dickheads.
    Nothing wrong with Indian Ocean Drive I've done it many times either people are falling asleep or try overtaking at 110 around the grey nomads.

    Either learn to overtake properly and give it shit or wait till no car is oncoming.

    Problem we are barking up the wrong tree speed kills blah blah etc when people are doing anything but focusing on driving and also either off there faces or DD.
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