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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    He'll never "eclipse" Rossi, unless he does it with multiple manufacturers.
    I think that's a weak argument though.
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    Mind you Marquez could win 25 titles and he'll never eclipse Rossi......whatever.

    Without getting into Rossi bashing, I think for quite a bit of his time there wasn't much competition [ and once Stoner/Lorenzo and Marquez rolled up...... ] , and having your own "backdoor" tyre supply always bothered me as well. But 9 titles is pretty awesome anyways you look at it.

    Agostini and Hailwood, Spencer was a real freak too, or maybe you could slot Surtees in as well, F1 car and bike titles isn't too shabby.
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    Aside from those mentioned where do you end with raw talent?
    Jarno Saarinen, Anthony Gobert, John Koscinski, Kevin Schwantz?

    Then if you combine that raw talent with a psychotic urge to win?
    Mick Doohan, Kenny Roberts, Eddie Lawson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidf View Post
    Mind you Marquez could win 25 titles and he'll never eclipse Rossi......whatever.

    Without getting into Rossi bashing, I think for quite a bit of his time there wasn't much competition [ and once Stoner/Lorenzo and Marquez rolled up...... ] , and having your own "backdoor" tyre supply always bothered me as well. But 9 titles is pretty awesome anyways you look at it.

    Agostini and Hailwood, Spencer was a real freak too, or maybe you could slot Surtees in as well, F1 car and bike titles isn't too shabby.
    In Rossi's defence those before him such as Rainey, Doohan etc were given the same tyre treatment by Michelin. Obviously 2008 Bridgestone situation and DORNA working with Yamaha marketing to get Rossi back on the m1 was something not seen before and likely won't be seen again but the Michelin stuff was pretty standard practise.

    Rossi was probably the best rider during the years he won championships(maybe not 2008) though you have to wonder how Barros would've gone if he had been given a full factory RCV all season for 2002. He probably should've won every race that year though.
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