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    Who values older japanese motorcycles

    With the price of older japanese motorcycle's going through the roof in my view who is putting these ridiculous price's on them.

    In 1981 you could buy new ,s/h pristine examples of these motorcycles.

    z1 900 $1500.00 2017 up to $30,000.00

    K2 750 $1000.00 2017 up to $10,000.00

    78 z1r $1850.00 2017 up to $18,000.00

    81 katana 1100 new$3500.00 2017 over $16,000.00

    81 gs1000s st new $2999.00 2017 over $10,000.00

    81 1100r new $6500.00 2017 over $20,000.00

    These models seem to be the most inflated i have owned them all and when i look now at modern motorcycles the older motorcycles are no where near as good ,i was going to find one been looking but the new bikes are far better value.
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    Ask carltonblues, he likes exactly the same bikes. You guys should talk about them.
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    People and their money are soon parted IMO...sorry that should read fools.

    If people are willing to pay these prices then that is what they will go for....but remember just because someone is asking what appears to be an inflated price doesn't mean they will get it.
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    Is this a serious conversation?

    Look at the price of a 70s Camaro. Compare it to a Camaro of today day.

    There's no comparison. Today's Camaro will make the older one look like a bicycle in terms of technology and performance. But the older one is worth more (for the right editions).

    Substitute Camaro for Falcon or any other muscle car.
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    All those bikes mentioned would be a very bad investment ,all were as common as and not that good

    RC30 RVF750 SP3 R7 so many better bikes to buy / restore ............
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    Quote Originally Posted by keys View Post
    All those bikes mentioned would be a very bad investment ,all were as common as and not that good

    RC30 RVF750 SP3 R7 so many better bikes to buy / restore ............
    For once i agree with you except maybe the 1100r honda ,why people are paying the asking price for the models i mentioned is beyond me , i too liked the rc30 but from memory they were over $40,000.00 new.

    And a macintosh gs 1000 that was a very good bike from nz like this one.

    http://raresportbikesforsale.com/kiw...hurst-replica/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loud View Post
    Is this a serious conversation?

    Look at the price of a 70s Camaro. Compare it to a Camaro of today day.

    There's no comparison. Today's Camaro will make the older one look like a bicycle in terms of technology and performance. But the older one is worth more (for the right editions).

    Substitute Camaro for Falcon or any other muscle car.
    It is a serious conversation when i first joined psb i lived and breathed bikes from my era and mainly these ones listed below ,now having being brought into the new century and seeing and riding the new motorcycles i am a convert and realize i was wrong to live in the past the future looks so much better ,and a lot safer too with all the technology built into them.

    What finally convinced me was seeing the neighbors brand new blue 2016 gsx1000 he bought and put together himself from the crate for $15,000.00 why waste more money on a bike that is 36 years old.
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    Supply and demand.

    Supply of good examples of these classics is very limited and arguable decreasing over time (supply curve shifts to the left).
    Without adjusting the demand curve (harder to quantify) the market clearing price increases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu View Post
    Supply and demand.

    Supply of good examples of these classics is very limited and arguable decreasing over time (supply curve shifts to the left).
    Without adjusting the demand curve (harder to quantify) the market clearing price increases.
    This ^^ Much like old cars etc, more and more older people have available funds and want to have what they couldn't when they were young so are buying these, restoring them and keeping them and even if there were thousands once they get crashed and destroyed so get rarer and good examples ask higher prices

    I am amazed at some of the prices that some shitty old cars like Datsun 120Y's etc are going for these days let alone more prized vehicles
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    The young bloke at work (24) was shocked when I told him Ford Escorts were the poor cousins to "real" cars when I was his age and I wouldn't give you $20.00 for one as a boat anchor.

    Apparently there are people who crave the gutless rust buckets and pay good dollars for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew View Post
    The young bloke at work (24) was shocked when I told him Ford Escorts were the poor cousins to "real" cars when I was his age and I wouldn't give you $20.00 for one as a boat anchor.

    Apparently there are people who crave the gutless rust buckets and pay good dollars for them.
    Maybe tell him to buy one of these.

    https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.a...t_twin_cam.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by llbuono View Post
    Maybe tell him to buy one of these.

    https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.a...t_twin_cam.php
    He is not gay so bought one of these instead;

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    Escort TC nah spec indicate my 91 250 is faster and quicker Escort with a cosworth is worth a look maybe....
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    Considering my preferred ride is my RD250LC and Iím now restoring a rz500 for me the price for the right bike at the right quality is pretty much only recouping 2/3rds of the restoration costs.

    And Iím selling my modern bike because the rd is simply more fun. Itís slow, brakes are crap, and Iím constantly chasing electrical issues in the loom. But it makes lots of noise, I can go for a blast, and wring itís neck, and Iím not worrying about my license.

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    The market picks certain vehicles as its favourites. The ultimate one is a Ferrari 250GTO ($50 million).

    Here in Australia, the Falcon Phase III was always the one to have.

    However, now the market is getting into the early Monaros, and the later Toranas (LH/LX).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed View Post
    Escort TC nah spec indicate my 91 250 is faster and quicker Escort with a cosworth is worth a look maybe....
    The australian dog bone grill escort twin cam was a cosworth the cylinder head or tappet cover had cosworth written on it and they had twin carburetors as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by llbuono View Post
    The australian dog bone grill escort twin cam was a cosworth the cylinder head or tappet cover had cosworth written on it and they had twin carburetors as well.
    They had 3 cams...

    2 in the head for the valves and they left the stock one in the block spinning aimlessly to run the mechanical fuel pump off the lobe on the end of it.
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    Average wage in 1981 was $14,800.

    Average wage in 2017 is $77,428.

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    Quote Originally Posted by filbert View Post
    They had 3 cams...

    2 in the head for the valves and they left the stock one in the block spinning aimlessly to run the mechanical fuel pump off the lobe on the end of it.
    There is one in Bunbury your family still got all their bikes they would be worth a fair bit now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Dealer View Post
    Average wage in 1981 was $14,800.

    Average wage in 2017 is $77,428.
    And the cost of living was lower especially houses on decent size blocks was stuff all (high interest though)
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