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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Trident View Post
    Dibs on Number five (05) Brock Place.

    I think the grandfather clause effectively prevents the chances of the necessary changes being made, Catch22.
    It would be a shame if CAMS preferred an unsafe facility to be maintained "as is" rather than approving changes that actually make it safer, but stranger things have happened.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens. You hate to wish your life away but if someone offered me a "fastforward" button it would be hard to resist.
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    One WILL cost money that they can't/won't spend and they are no worse off.

    One MAY cost money if something goes horribly wrong, and even then it's up to the lawyers to argue about it.

    Do the math and run the odds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboR1 View Post
    One WILL cost money that they can't/won't spend and they are no worse off.

    One MAY cost money if something goes horribly wrong, and even then it's up to the lawyers to argue about it.

    Do the math and run the odds.
    Then there's the opportunity cost of sitting on their hands.
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    Future planning rates poorly in WA.

    Freeway south extensions which featured traffic light intersections.

    The rail underpass/tunnel south of Roe which was abandoned.

    Roe 8 on again off again.

    100 year process of reclaiming of Perth foreshore for it to be dug up again.

    Oh and never mind riding the largest resources boom of our generation only to emerge at the other end with more debt than ever.

    And these are major infrastructure projects that go into the 100's of millions which effect large % of the population.

    How do you think it will approach a small interest group of motorsport enthusiasts and speed freaks, when the state's obsession with the speed kills agenda trumps everything else.

    I'm sure they are thinking about costs... or more accurately how much more revenue they will get when it's all housing and they pocket ~$2000 from every household in rates.

    Barbagallo is dead. Gone, it will never return. We can rename it Sandown II
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    The more things change the more they stay the same. Plenty of tracks around Perth. Yesterday was the Canning Mills loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero Diablo View Post
    along with the supertaxi's nice shiny pit complex that no one is allowed to use
    Look, not disagreeing with your general argument, but this bit just ain't true. Now, I can't speak for the bike organisers, but I have personally used the garage, apron and rear parking areas of the pit complex on numerous occasions. But only at events where all vehicle movement can be restricted to "inside" the track layout. I would imagine private sessions would get to use the facility too, but with the likes of a typical Trackday having around 80+ bikes, there isn't the room for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortSteve View Post
    Look, not disagreeing with your general argument, but this bit just ain't true. Now, I can't speak for the bike organisers, but I have personally used the garage, apron and rear parking areas of the pit complex on numerous occasions. But only at events where all vehicle movement can be restricted to "inside" the track layout. I would imagine private sessions would get to use the facility too, but with the likes of a typical Trackday having around 80+ bikes, there isn't the room for it.
    What are you letting something like the facts get in the way of a bit of vitriolic whinging? Admittedly its been a few years since of been up there and attitudes have probably changed. Although it doesn't remove the fact there is now a large concrete structure on one of the vaguely flat bits of the infield making the addition of any other features to the track layout very difficult.
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    they will never make the track bike friendly , Motorcycle racing is dangerous and we do it and no wot might happen , Untill the car club stops complaining when ever a new track is proposed will will never see a new track

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortSteve View Post
    Look, not disagreeing with your general argument, but this bit just ain't true. Now, I can't speak for the bike organisers, but I have personally used the garage, apron and rear parking areas of the pit complex on numerous occasions. But only at events where all vehicle movement can be restricted to "inside" the track layout. I would imagine private sessions would get to use the facility too, but with the likes of a typical Trackday having around 80+ bikes, there isn't the room for it.
    You have to pay to use it. We could have, but at, if I remember correctly, 7k a day, it was a bit on the pricey side. We fought hard to get it opened for spectators...
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    ^^^^ +237 ^^^^^

    I only got 1/3 way through that vid.MCM Just as they svcd and loaded that awesome truck....

    Anyone else think we're getting buttfucked by the Aussie Gummermint after seeing that........???????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboR1 View Post
    Once everyone loses everything, will we ever have a chance of getting something.

    But being Perth, that chance will still be in the realms of none and fuck all.
    You troll from another state or what? I feel for you if you still live in Perth. You did a very brave thing that day mate you let go of the brake when you knew that you were fucked and then headed for the infield to destroy yourself and that awesome bike and unfortunately you hit another bike. Gained huge respect from me. I blamed Doug 100% and I hated listening to his whining about Perth. He did something about, I done something about it too.
    Time you do something too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Trident View Post
    Dibs on Number five (05) Brock Place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Trident View Post
    Dibs on Number five (05) Brock Place.
    It comes with a large white gum in the drive way that you need to hit every time you get home.
    Trying to think of a wise and sincere signature quote, but the only words that leap to mind are, "TITTY SPRINKLES"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboR1 View Post
    It comes with a large white gum in the drive way that you need to hit every time you get home.
    Fucking burn.

    Also when it rains the water runs into your garage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboR1 View Post
    It comes with a large white gum in the drive way that you need to hit every time you get home.
    I think the council will probably cut it down and put it through the chipper when I'm not looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Trident View Post
    I think the council will probably cut it down and put it through the chipper when I'm not looking.
    You'll have 'White Gum' supporters picketing the driveway for fkn months on end........putting shabby wreaths all over.....and ACA will want a witness statement.....or just make one up.

    Just 'cause you wanted a fkn block in 'Brock Place' Second Thoughts...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboR1 View Post
    It comes with a large white gum in the drive way that you need to hit every time you get home.
    Oh that's a bit harsh. He only hit it once 🙄
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    Why can't we bring back around the house's street circuits like we used to have, there are towns out there with very little population and with the right planning could be turned into a street circuit, and remember bathurst was a street circuit.

    These were great track's.

    The beach circuit.

    https://i.imgur.com/YJMdj8v.jpg

    The ring road circuit.

    https://i.imgur.com/SGEhpBY.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by llbuono View Post
    Why can't we bring back around the house's street circuits like we used to have, there are towns out there with very little population and with the right planning could be turned into a street circuit, and remember bathurst was a street circuit. These were great track's.
    You think finding insurance providers to allow riding / racing at circuits is hard, have your tried getting insurance providers to provide cover for racing on the street? Australian law has effectively destroyed the ability to run competetive events on street circuits except for the extremely wealthy corporations that run 4 wheel events and can afford to put in all the barriers, crowd control, and pay the councils/local government to block of the streets completely for those times. Also those competitions are in cars which have a huge level of safety built into the vehicle itself. There is no way for bikes to have that built in safety factor (at this time)

    If you look at NZ/IOM, they have different laws that allow these events to occur, as the law protects the councils and promoters from being held liable for anything happens at the events, that is completely held against the individual.

    Australia is now a litigious society with OHS laws that apply to everyone including volunteers and clubs, which means anyone involved in the organisation of an event or own/manage the land the event occurs on, can be held liable in the case of injury or death, irrelevant of what forms or waivers the injured party signs or accepts by attending the event. Hence why lawyers and insurers are now involved.
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