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    I just re-read this from your November ride

    So I was planning to leave like 3.30am but by the time I did the shopping and final prep on Monday night, I would have been leaving on like 5 hours sleep. So I pushed the start time out to balance more sleep against riding at the worst part of the circadian rhythm. Plus it took like two hours longer than planned... the first 200 and last 400 km were the most difficult. The first 200km was filled with silly shit: the jerry can fell off, then when it went in the top box, it crushed a can of red bull which exploded and soaked everything. My log book and receipts blew across a servo forecourt. Etc... The last 400km, it got bloody cold. I got cold down to the skeleton and that was accompanied by some pretty nasty fatigue. I wasn't prepared for this, I only had a tee shirt on under my jacket. Ended up stuffing my jacket with some of that pull down tissue shit servos have, which helped a lot. I also lost time with a couple of 10 minute powernaps and I was so cold/fatigued that things like getting gloves on or using the ignition key was taking a long time. But with the low temperature, closed towns, and no camping gear... choosing to abandon the ride wasn't really an option at 2am in Cervantes.
    All this ... and you were only just North of Perth (in comparison).

    The Big Dogs of Long Distance Riding have not done it on a 125cc bike IIRC. There is a reason for that.

    There was an attempt (and it was successful) from THE big dog of IBR riding in Australia on a BMW 800cc bike. http://f800riders.org/forum/showthre...ciation-100CCC He did the 100CC but not without issues. You need to be damn resourceful, resilient, fit, with a plan (and not leaving it blown across the forecourt of some outback servo).

    You rode a commendable effort in November, but I think you're underestimating this one. Long distance 2 up truck driver or not...this IS a whole different game.
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    ^^ oh yeh...Ural.. ^^

    Mate ..do you see the difference..USA is just a big fkn parking lot...people everywhere.

    Australia.. is different there's a lot of nothing that goes on for ages then there is a little something where there are a few people..most don't give a fuk.

    All are suspicious...some are scared..and some are killers.

    enjoy the ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheel_of_steell View Post
    Well... of course it won't be completely easy, motorcycle touring never is. In a strange way, that's the whole point of the endeavour. However, to put it in perspective: This is a straight, 100% sealed road, passing through several metropolitan areas with regular, high quality fuel stops and minimal/no risk of crime. On a late model japanese bike in good condition. I'm sure honda would love to sell me a VFR or goldwing to make the trip but the reality is that vast majority of the motorcycling world does a lot more, with a lot less, and somehow gets by.
    It can't be harder than this: https://www.longhaulpaul.com/archive...slight-breeze/
    You just don't seem to have taken any decision making elements into account. While the guy in your story spent 18 months of planning, training and customizing his bike and he had a top support team and good mechanical knowledge and adequate funding for repairs, you appear not to.
    A really big part of making a decision is weighing up the risk and the likely consequences. Your bike might be great but it has limits. It is not made to carry a pillion at its top speed for such a long distance so it will likely break down. How are you going to manage the consequences when it does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJ Steve View Post
    The Big Dogs of Long Distance Riding have not done it on a 125cc bike IIRC. There is a reason for that.
    That's where you're mistaken...

    This bloke did Newcastle to Perth and back (7860km) in 98 hours on a CBR250 and Melbourne to Darwin (3753km) on a CBR125 in 49hrs.

    100CCC Gold on a CBR250R: Newcastle – Perth – Newcastle in 98hrs
    http://wombattler.com/100ccc-on-a-cb...stle-in-98hrs/

    Melbourne to Darwin 49hrs on “Little Mango” CBR125R
    http://wombattler.com/50cc-on-little-mango-cbr125r/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Dealer View Post
    That's where you're mistaken...

    This bloke did Newcastle to Perth and back (7860km) in 98 hours on a CBR250 and Melbourne to Darwin (3753km) on a CBR125 in 49hrs.

    100CCC Gold on a CBR250R: Newcastle – Perth – Newcastle in 98hrs
    http://wombattler.com/100ccc-on-a-cb...stle-in-98hrs/

    Melbourne to Darwin 49hrs on “Little Mango” CBR125R
    http://wombattler.com/50cc-on-little-mango-cbr125r/
    IIRC - If I Recall Correctly.

    Thanks for the clarification.
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    Skidoo did a 50CC on his Yamaha 150
    https://forum.ironbutt.org/index.php...pril-2015.228/
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    Quote Originally Posted by gus96 View Post
    Skidoo did a 50CC on his Yamaha 150
    https://forum.ironbutt.org/index.php...pril-2015.228/
    Difference being.....experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gus96 View Post
    Skidoo did a 50CC on his Yamaha 150
    https://forum.ironbutt.org/index.php...pril-2015.228/
    pharkkk what a ride..amazing.

    Cheers gus...made of much better stuff than me....
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    What do you need to cross the Nullarbor this time of the year?

    I have done early August trips and had ice formed on my tent. An experienced rider with me got affected by cold making decisions less than wise. I have seen new but average waterproof clothes completely failed at Baladonia. Frozen fingers are painful. If you are not comfortable my opinion is this can be life threatening. Poor decision making and you can't concentrate on the riding.

    1. You need very good waterproof clothing.
    2. Bmw winter gloves are good thing others may have recommendations from real experience to offer. No matter what I still end up with wet fingers. It is important how you seal the jacket arm and gloves.
    3. Layers of clothing good thermals
    4. Waterproof luggage, it will probably leak anyway so plastic bags for clothes.
    5. Good waterproof boots, gortex lined is what I use.
    6. Electric heated jacket an option if the bike chosen can power it.
    7. New tyres and the roads can get slippery, (top gear wheel spin once)
    8. Waterproof cover for phone and any electronic things you think won't get wet.
    9. Roos can be prolific depending on a few factors. Especially after Madurah Pass in my experience. Maybe shoo Roos work who knows?
    10. Know when to stop!

    11. The pillion needs same clothing.
    12. Airhawke or similar to consider for both.

    I have carried some of these heated packs that camping shops have. Never used them myself but have given them to a pillion on another bike who was frozen.

    There is a lot of long distance experience here so can others offer more advice? Be helpful not only to OP.
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    I admire your sense of adventure. Have fun, keep it safe and best of luck.
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    Just to clarify, i 100% support a Nullarbor ride on a CB125 or a GS500...I just don’t support taking a stranger pillion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJ Steve View Post
    You rode a commendable effort in November, but I think you're underestimating this one. Long distance 2 up truck driver or not...this IS a whole different game.
    Your trip is possible but I hope you reconsider some of your planning. Any chance of waiting until Spring/Summer, skipping the passenger, work at keeping your bike at 110km/hr (not 80km/hr as per last trip) and having a few plans if things go wrong?
    Roos are particularly bad at the moment as there has not been enough rain.

    ps... why not take your other bike and leave the 125 at home?
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    I see a blogworthy trip coming up along the lines of my favourite read, "Across America on an Italian Supermodel"

    Macca's run Across Australia on a crotch rocket maybe!!
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    There is some pretty good advice on here especially from the older riders here are some points and tips that i have experienced and use.

    1) when being passed by on coming road trains keep to the left of the lane as the turbulent air they cause can be very dangerous i have seen caravans implode and my bikini fairing almost invert it is not so bad now as they don't travel at 140 kmh any more in packs of six.

    2) cold especially over east the roads ice and you can't feel your fingers and when you stop you may find your foot not wanting to leave the pedal..

    3) fatigue will have you interpreting things incorrectly when you are really cold.

    4) have new tryes and a puncture repair kit either whoosh or a plug kit and a small air compressor also a small tool kit and a couple of torches and cloth backed gaffa tape for emergency repairs.

    5) oil your chain daily and check your fluids.

    6) carry drinking water and a epirb if you crash in some locations you might never be found for days it has happened and mobile phones don't work out there epirbs do.i also carry a small first aid kit.
    Mate stick to the facts not a fantasy.
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    Excellent advice in this thread. I resonate strongly with the initial loss of co-ordination, then later, loss of IQ that comes with long rides in the cold. Catch-22: when you get really stupid, it's time to stop. But when you're really stupid, you are less equipped to make that decision. Good luck!

    Re: everything else. The initial idea was to grab a passenger and take the gs500 for a 3-4 day trip to melbourne. With the 'save a pillion' fund in the black, well, that leaves planning options like an ironbutt run and/or taking the cb125. Without typing out an essay, both bikes are in excellent condition with long term maintenance history and new consumables. I do have some real contingency plans up to a point, but honestly if your bike grenades on the nullarbor it's unavoidably a pineapple day EPIRB or not.

    My cold/wet weather gear is probably the biggest weak spot, which is something I'll be addressing in the next couple of weeks. Advice on gear that actually works is most welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheel_of_steell View Post
    a (legal) item of clothing?
    How far could you get you reckon in a mankini?
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    Quote Originally Posted by llbuono View Post
    6) carry drinking water and a epirb if you crash in some locations you might never be found for days it has happened and mobile phones don't work out there epirbs do.i also carry a small first aid kit.
    Bloody hell mate, when was the last time you went across? 1936?

    Don't need an EPIRB and Telstra works the majority of the way across with a few blackspots. Longest fuel stop is 188km.

    The road from Perth - Kalgoorlie - Norseman - Ceduna - Pt Augusta - Adelaide - Melbourne there'll be a car or truck going past minimum every 30mins during the day on the Nullarbor.

    For God's sake this bloke is unicycling around the world and just did the Nullabor. People on here are getting concerned about a bloke on a motorbike.





    Norseman to Balladonia 188 km
    Balladonia to Caiguna 178 km
    Caiguna to Cocklebiddy 64 km
    Cocklebiddy to Madura 91 km
    Madura to Mundrabilla 115 km
    Mundrabilla to Eucla 65 km
    Eucla to Border Village 12 km
    Border Village to Nullarbor Roadhouse 182 km
    Nullarbor Roadhouse to Nundroo 169 km
    Nundroo to Penong 76 km
    Penong to Ceduna 75 km
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    I agree with no pillion for reducing risks, and other than that go nuts. Life is short and Yolo etc.

    Worst case you will have some cool story bros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boeman View Post
    I agree with no pillion for reducing risks, and other than that go nuts. Life is short and Yolo etc.

    Worst case you will have some cool story bros.
    Riding across to the MotoGP in 2014 on a Suzuki Bandit 1250.

    - Get to Merredin, bike will cruise but won't accelerate. Tank off on the side of the road. Can't see anything. Full tank of 98 and bottle of injector cleaner clears it up.

    - 20km from Adelaide, starts doing it again. Decide to head for a dealer. 5km from the dealer I can't get past 60kph. Bike dies in the Suzuki dealership carpark.

    - 2 days in Adelaide waiting for a new fuel pump. Get back on the road.

    - Pull up for the night in Stawell. Key snaps off in my Givi Pannier.

    - 90km from Phillip Island, pull up at a servo and my bike is pissing coolant everywhere.

    - Crack the shits, call a tow truck. Have bike transported back to Perth and continue the trip in a hire car then fly home.
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